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I dont watched TV at all as TV Licence say

You need to be covered by a TV Licence to

watch or record live TV programmes on any channel
download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand.

I dont watched EITHER of them as I played Video games on my TV.

So the questions I ask is Do you need TV Licence if you playing Video Games only?

If you do not watch / record any TV or stream from the internet then you do not need a TV licence be you will have to prove it. If you own a TV and or TV recording equipment then good luck arguing with them

QuoteA TV Licence is a legal permission to install or use television equipment to receive (i.e. watch or record) TV programmes, as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV service, and to download or watch BBC programmes on demand, including catch up TV, on BBC iPlayer. This applies regardless of which channel you're watching, which device you are using (TV, desktop computer, laptop, mobile phone, tablet or any other), and how you receive them (terrestrial, satellite, cable, via the internet or in any other way).
The licence fee is not a subscription to watch BBC programmes but mandated by law. Under the Communications Act 2003, the BBC in its role as the licensing authority has a duty to issue TV Licences and collect the licence fee.

In Germany it does no longer matter if you own  a TV or a computer/smartphone. You pay nonetheless. It is similar to a tax - without calling it a tax (as this would be against the law for these TV/Radio/Internet channels). And yes, BBC and Co are expensive "monstrums" too (with sometimes good programmes - but of course expensive productions).




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Ron

What the hell is a tv license? 

Someone "semi-official" broadcasts TV for everyone in the country (to ensure that all interests are taken care of "unbiased" like a commercially oriented TV channel would possibly do). The costs for this are then to be paid by someone - the population. In Germany they changed payment rules from "they have to proof that YOU own a TV" to "everybody is able to watch TV somehow so all pay".




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Ron

(UK only) From my radio ham days my memory is that having equipment capable of receiving TV (transmit/receive radio) on your property requires a licence. If your game playing TV needs an external box freeview, etc  and you don't have one, you can't receive TV on your TV hence you are OK.
This assumes you don't have other kit with digital TV reception capabilities (or a TV with built in digital reception capabilities) or access TV programs through other mediums at your property. If in doubt contact the licencing authority. Have fun cps

In the UK anyway considering by biased the propaganda machine the BBC is, and how crap most of the stuff they make is these days, I wish the TV License was banned. Thank god I don't have to pay it anymore living in Japan. TV and Radio licences, who uses them anymore?

You do not need a TV License just because you have a TV. The only time you need it is if you are watching or recording a Broadcast, by the BBC, and that broadcast is live. Live as in happening there and then for the first time.

I haven't paid a TV License for 8 years. I have four of their miscreant agents recorded on my phone saying yes, when I asked if I needed a TV License for having a TV.

I played the recording to one of the managers at TV Licensing and said to him that the agents saying yes when I asked if I needed a TV License for having a TV were committing fraud, most notably, obtaining money via deception. That is a against the law. I told the manager that should an agent ever visit here again, I will record them again. If that agent lies as well then I will kick off by making as much noise as I can via the papers, youtube, blogs etc on how TV Licensing deliberately lies to people to obtain money.

It's been 7 years and to this day no TV |Licensing agent comes to my flat, nor do they send any letters about it.

Know your rights. Record everything that happens when one of these twisted, lying, miscreants of the BBC's nastiness, comes round to your home. The BBC is a corrupt and disgraceful corporation. I wouldn't piss on it if it were on fire. I'd add more fuel.

QuoteIt is similar to a tax - without calling it a tax

@#òù! it's a F**** TAX!

Considering that when I buy a TV set I paid (and I think, everyone!) the VAT, calling it 'ownership tax' (as in Italy!) is a pure nonsense.
Plus, the fact that is considered a 'purpose tax' (! so it's a tax!) and the amount is returned to the 'national' (= the owner is the State) broadcaster to finance 'public transmission' (where? when? what? ) I feel a little ... angry about this argument (the Italian Public TV broadcast tv spot like a commercial tv... so? Someone tried to consider this an 'help of State' (and so against the EU law etc etc)

And - to resolve the main opinions of Italians (that don't consider something 'right' to finance a public caravan like our national/public TV - our illuminated governments some years ago decided to take the tax in a very special way: if you have an electric contract (anyone has one!) YOU will pay the 'tax' - it's in the electric BILL! (*)
And - of course - if you don't want to pay, you NEED to demonstrate (with many many papers) that you don't own any 'devices capable of receive ANY streaming signal, not only about the national public TV' (Watch, they are very prepared in this! National broadcaster - of course - can be view thru internet, so...)
And the *luck* (for now...) is that the first bill proposal considered even mobile devices! If you have a subscription with an internet provider or TLC you have to pay the 'tax'.

Final word: I live in a place where - even if I was interesed in - I don't receive all the TV signals... so I pay a tax to watch an old (and often turned-off) TV set! Yeah!

(*) this solution (brilliant!) is considered from many very very dangerous: tomorrow I could find in my electric bill 'another' voice about 'some new tax, for some special reason'. I can't live without energy, gas, water or internet (maybe the last option is not so a living-factor for now).
Good... and I stop here.

Quote from: muruba on November 23, 2017, 21:41:50
What the hell is a tv license? 

Something that should be abolished, that's what!

I haven't paid it for 10 years now, naturally though it's because I've been in Japan for 10 years. Still, in a round about sort of way, I've been able to see the stuff I want, along with ITV, Channel4 etc via youtube.

By the way, there is a TV licence tax in Japan as well, but weirdly it isn't against the law to not pay it. If you just pretend you're not in your house when they come knocking, they go away and come back again next year. It's only if you paid ONCE and then stop paying that it is illegal.

Weird.

Quote from: muruba on November 23, 2017, 21:41:50
What the hell is a tv license? 

One of the many excuses in the UK to grab money out of people. £147 per year.

Excluding any other income the BBFC ( you can fill in the F for yourself ) gets roughly £4 billion each year from the compulsory TV license alone. £4 billion?!?! it really baffles me where that huge amount of money goes.

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In the UK anyway considering by biased the propaganda machine the BBC is, and how crap most of the stuff they make is these days, I wish the TV License was banned.

There was only two programmes I watched on the BBC.. Total Wipeout, which was great fun, and Top Gear.

They cancelled Total Wipeout for whatever reasons I dont know as it was great, and well, Top Gear isnt the same... So now, I literally watch no BBC stuff at all.

I dont listen to BBC radio either, never have!

I use the BBC website for toeball news, but most of the other stuff is just biased shit, and sometimes the articles that appear, well, they arent news... Just fillers for people to justify their £50000+ salary! They also update the home page every five minutes as well, even though there's nothing wrong with the one thats been up for 6 months, again, just a bunch of people justifying big publicly paid salaries.

Honestly, the BBC, it's just a big ball of corporate shite, where kiddy fiddlers get paid a fortune... And that is the truth!

I'd scrap the lot tomorrow if I had my way, and give the TV License money to people in this country that actually need it.

Dabz

QuoteI use the BBC website for toeball news, but most of the other stuff is just biased shit

Oh how I could rant about how biased the BBC are but... I will "remain" calm and not go off on one about the ultra left wing smug self servicing pompous supposed to be neutral broadcasting company is...... Twats!

About a year ago, I read a report somewhere, forget where. Where is said that almost 80% of people under the age of 40 don't watch TV anymore. The highest demographic of people still watching is the over 60 and 70s. At some point those (likely) computer unsavvy elderly are going to die out and well, even the BBC has going to have to do some catching up.

I was reading an article yesterday on the EA debacle and American news CSNBC were quoting Jim Sterling and Angry Joe, which somehow seems very surreal to me. If the MSM are quoting youtubers who make their content in their houses, the switching of the old guard to the new, is probably near.

The cheery on the top is that organisations like the BBC, they're already old hat but they turn more people off through sensational and very biased journalism.

Where isn't there an Internet licence, or a mobile phone licence. There is for a car because it's a dangerous piece of equipment. What legimiate reason in 2017 is there for something as achaic as a TV?!

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I did find a similiar article
http://www.businessinsider.com/more-young-people-are-watching-less-traditional-tv-2016-7