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Title: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Steve Elliott on May 28, 2020, 08:52:05
The pi4 is now available with 8GB of memory:

https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b?variant=31994565689406

And a new 'Pi OS' available too in preparation for the follow-up 64-bit version currently available in beta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD67xfSvQrE
Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Steve Elliott on May 29, 2020, 03:11:38
The new 'Pi OS 32-bit' runs everything as normal and breaks no apps.  The new naming convention of 'Pi OS' is the stepping stone to the Pi OS 64-bit currently in beta and with an 8Gb Raspberry Pi and Vulkan driver support on the way should introduce some significant improvements.
Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Qube on May 29, 2020, 20:06:07
Oo er, an 8GB version :o - To buy or not to buy?

I guess it'll go nicely with my Competition Pro joystick that arrived today ;D - Nice and authentic with memories of the microswitches clicking away.

Also arrived was a new case for my current 4GB Pi 4 - GeekPi Pi 4 Case with Fan 40X40X10mm and 4 Heatsinks to keep the Pi super cool under stress.
Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Xerra on May 29, 2020, 20:28:48
That the original Competition Pro joystick with the 9 pin connection?

I was looking at Ebay a while back for getting hold of one of those but think none of the ones I saw came in at under £40. Around the same price as they cost 40 years ago when they first came out :-)
Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Steve Elliott on May 29, 2020, 20:56:35
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Oo er, an 8GB version :o - To buy or not to buy?

I think they all sold out in a day lol - but you can be informed automatically from several sites when more are in stock.  I'll get one next month to replace my pi3 and run 2 pi4's instead of one of each.

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I guess it'll go nicely with my Competition Pro joystick that arrived today ;D - Nice and authentic with memories of the microswitches clicking away.

I have one for the C64, a very good quality retro joystick - but as you know you can now get them with USB connectors too.  Yep they're not cheap Xerra.

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Also arrived was a new case for my current 4GB Pi 4 - GeekPi Pi 4 Case with Fan

Cool looking case.

Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Qube on May 30, 2020, 06:03:46
Quote from: Xerra on May 29, 2020, 20:28:48
That the original Competition Pro joystick with the 9 pin connection?
Quote from: Steve Elliott on May 29, 2020, 20:56:35
but as you know you can now get them with USB connectors too.  Yep they're not cheap Xerra.
Should have said that it's the USB one. I showed the missus and she laughed at how basic looking and clicky it was :o - No appreciation for the microswitched classics :P ( try using a modern joystick on retro games that require high speed waggling )
Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Kryzon on May 30, 2020, 12:59:55
What are people using the Pi's for? Like a TV box?
Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Steve Elliott on May 30, 2020, 13:55:08
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What are people using the Pi's for?

I use one as a second computer; it runs completely silently, takes up very little room and very little power to run. So if I'm working on the PC I have a dedicated second screen for web browsing or to make notes for ideas, without having to shut down a tab on the PC and disturb my workflow or take resources away from the PC.  The second pi runs an arcade machine emulator.  I like the idea of an arcade machine in the man cave running in the background.
Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Xerra on May 30, 2020, 16:01:32
Quote from: Qube on May 30, 2020, 06:03:46
Should have said that it's the USB one. I showed the missus and she laughed at how basic looking and clicky it was :o - No appreciation for the microswitched classics :P ( try using a modern joystick on retro games that require high speed waggling )

This is a picture of the one I got with the C64 big model that I got at Xmas. Looks the same as the one that comes with the mini but it's actually properly micro-switched like the original model. The mini 64 ones were shite and I hated trying to play the games with it so I was well happy they took the complaints on board.

This one runs via USB so I'm now wondering if there's any kind of drivers so I could use it on a Mac and possibly build support for my games into it. Be great fun trying to play them using a REAL joystick again.
Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Qube on May 30, 2020, 22:21:09
@Xerra, I didn't get that one. The one I got was  the anniversary edition (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K9N36GG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GZS0EbV66MQEE)
Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Kryzon on May 31, 2020, 09:25:08
Quote from: Steve Elliott on May 30, 2020, 13:55:08
I use one as a second computer; it runs completely silently, takes up very little room and very little power to run. So if I'm working on the PC I have a dedicated second screen for web browsing or to make notes for ideas, without having to shut down a tab on the PC and disturb my workflow or take resources away from the PC.  The second pi runs an arcade machine emulator.  I like the idea of an arcade machine in the man cave running in the background.
Thanks Steve, sounds cool. I like the portable arcade machine idea, should be very convenient.
Title: Re: New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS
Post by: Steve Elliott on June 18, 2020, 18:41:20
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Thanks Steve, sounds cool. I like the portable arcade machine idea, should be very convenient.

lol well it was.  Then I switched it on one day and all the colours were not displaying correctly at all and games looked terrible (all games).  Now if the pi foundation had actually continued with a full sized HDMI cable input I could have just swapped a cable to see if that was the problem!  Instead I bought an official cable to convert from full size to pi4 sized HDMI, so error checking is more tricky...It could have overheated and got damaged, re-loading games didn't solve the problem so perhaps not a software problem, or it could be a corrupt sd card - which means re-installing everything.  Games, bezels and settings on 100 games.  A faulty HDMI Cable might have saved me a lot of time (and money) diagnosing the cause...At last running a pi4 from a SSD is now possible officially and should be much more reliable than a SD Card.  I intended to backup my SD Card when everything was configured exactly as I wanted on the 100 games, but ofcourse it broke before then.