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Media => Sound & Music => Topic started by: Qube on June 10, 2017, 09:14:54 PM

Title: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Qube on June 10, 2017, 09:14:54 PM
I bought the below back in December and February and only just getting around to having a proper play with them.

(http://www.syntaxbomb.com/images/EWLic.png)

The Hollywood libraries are pretty decent and hopefully I'll get some time to create a few tunes with them.

Anyone else had any experience with EW libraries and have any tips setting up the strings section?
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Rooster on June 10, 2017, 09:35:23 PM
How much did they cost?
Could you post a link?
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Qube on June 10, 2017, 11:32:22 PM
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Could you post a link?
I got them from http://www.soundsonline.com (http://www.soundsonline.com)

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How much did they cost?
They were both on offer when I bought them. The Hollywood Orchestra and Ministry of Rock were buy one get one free.

(http://www.syntaxbomb.com/images/EWP1.png)

(http://www.syntaxbomb.com/images/EWP2.png)
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Rooster on June 11, 2017, 12:03:38 AM
Eek! It's going to awhile before I can afford that.
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: MikeHart on June 11, 2017, 08:05:36 AM
I got the Ministry of Rock collection back in the days. Super stuff but my system right now can't use it.

Btw. whcih DAW are you using? Mine is FL Studio.
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: LineOf7s on June 11, 2017, 12:11:00 PM
I've played with a bunch of East West libraries in the past (pirated versions, to see whether I could do anything with them to justify the expense) and they're pretty schmick.  I hope someday to find myself in a position to pick up a Symphonic Orchestra or something, but without the promise of some sort of income coming from it it's a bit of a stretch, really.

Also, FL Studio for the win.
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Kryzon on June 11, 2017, 01:13:53 PM
It's been very long since I played with composing. Vienna, EastWest, whatever you end up using will only sound as good as your programming skills (as in, audio programming: sequencing MIDI, controlling velocities and dynamics, choosing the right articulation sounds for each note etc.).

I think the best violin virtual instrument out there (and violin seems to be a difficult instrument to sample properly) is the one from Embertone. You might want to get that to complement your setup if you plan on writing for solo violin:
http://www.embertone.com/instruments/friedlanderviolin.php
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Qube on June 11, 2017, 06:14:35 PM
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Btw. whcih DAW are you using? Mine is FL Studio.
I use Renoise 3.1 which is a superb tracker style DAW. https://www.renoise.com (https://www.renoise.com)

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I think the best violin virtual instrument out there (and violin seems to be a difficult instrument to sample properly) is the one from Embertone
I've not come across that one. I'll have a listen to the demos.
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Qube on June 12, 2017, 01:55:45 AM
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You might want to get that to complement your setup if you plan on writing for solo violin:
http://www.embertone.com/instruments/friedlanderviolin.php
Holy shit balls.... That is one impressive VSTi - It sounds incredibly real!!!
Title: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Mikey on June 25, 2017, 02:22:39 AM
Qube, I use the East West Libraries.
I set them up using score format. You do not have to use all these but what you use depends upon your sound.

Code: [Select]
Woodwinds
========
Piccolo
Flute
Oboe
Clarinet
Bassoon
 
Brass
====
French Horn
Trumpet
Trombone
Tuba
 
Percussion [unpitched]
========
Cymbals
Triangle
Concert Snare
Concert Bass Drum
 
Percussion [pitched]
========
Timpani
Glockenspiel
Chimes
Harpsichord
Clavinet
Marimba
Vibraphone
Xylophone
Harmonium
Harp
Piano
Organ
 
Voices
=====
Soprano
Alto
Tenor
Baritone
Bass
Female Choir
Children's Choir
Male Choir
 
Strings [picked]
=====
Mandolin
Ukelele
Banjo
Guitar
Bass Guitar
 
Strings [bowed]
=====
Violin
Viola
Cello
Contrabass

Sorry to see you paid so much for that. East West use to have a free version of their orchestra. It did not have the full accompaniment of instruments however, It may have been more than you needed to use until you were paid for your music.
As far as DAWs are concerned, you should have had friends point you to something called Podium

https://zynewave.com/podium-free/

It's quite a good piece of free software.
There's more. If you need anything else ask.
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Qube on June 25, 2017, 09:29:25 AM
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Sorry to see you paid so much for that.
I bought the EWSQL when it was on offer and the Hollywood and Ministry of Sound were buy one get one free. So I saved quite a bit over full price.

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It may have been more than you needed to use until you were paid for your music
Oh, I don't write music professionally. I just write music for my own games / enjoyment. I bought these libraries to update my very ageing Edirol plugin.

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https://zynewave.com/podium-free/
It's quite a good piece of free software.
Looks interesting but the iLok license for the East West libraries is on my iMac. The DAW I use is Renoise 3.1 as I'm an old fart and love Amiga style trackers.

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I set them up using score format. You do not have to use all these but what you use depends upon your sound.
Thanks for your list. It's quite a beast of a system to get the right matching sounds you want.

Questions :

Are there any particular articulations you've chosen for your strings section?.
Did you have to adjust the volume for blending the sounds together?
I can't find the voices in EWSQL? - Is that because I only have the silver edition?
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Krischan on June 25, 2017, 08:41:26 PM
The DAW I use is Renoise 3.1 as I'm an old fart and love Amiga style trackers.

Hehe, me too. I own the EWQL Symphonic Orchestra, Hollywood Collection and Symphonic Choirs (all as Gold Editions) for classic music and a lot of more bought and free VSTs for Trance music (like Sylenth1, all Tone2 products, Kontakt and all of the old Arturia Synthies. But I create mostly Intros for a friend but plan to make my own game music or just play for fun. Renoise is cool but has sometimes timing problems with cheaper/free VSTs. But I really prefer it over the piano roll editors. I've even upgraded my RAM to 32GB only because of the EWQL instruments and their random crashes due the RAM limitation.

And you can spend a lot of money for VSTs, even though they were all bought in a sale with huge price reductions.
Title: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Mikey on June 26, 2017, 12:21:07 AM
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Did you have to adjust the volume for blending the sounds together?

Not if the sounds all come from the same library. All the sustain articulations are the same volume as well as the others.

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I can't find the voices in EWSQL? - Is that because I only have the silver edition?

I think that you should have choirs and Church Organ. You should also have the full documentation for the Instrument list.
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Qube on June 26, 2017, 08:00:46 PM
Ahh, yes, there they are :P - Thanks Mikey. Ive not had long to play with them yet so everything all new.
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Mikey on June 27, 2017, 02:02:58 AM
DO you have the complete PDF manual for EWQLSE? If not I can point you to it.

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Are there any particular articulations you've chosen for your strings section?.

Depending upon the library, a person can get many articulations.
Right now I only have Sustain, Sforzando, Staccato, Pizzicato, FortePiano, and Tremolo.

Using fewer playing styles limits your writing style. Doesn't make your music worse but . . .
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Qube on June 27, 2017, 08:35:30 PM
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DO you have the complete PDF manual for EWQLSE? If not I can point you to it.
I do, I see them in the applications / documentations folder. I'm just terrible for reading docs :P
Title: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Mikey on June 28, 2017, 01:54:29 AM
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I do, I see them in the applications / documentations folder. I'm just terrible for reading docs
Good, you'll need them. EW uses cryptic names for the Instruments.
I makes it more difficult scoring, but they can be changed.
Title: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Mikey on July 04, 2017, 10:16:17 PM
Qube

Also know that the difference between the Gold Edition and the Platinum Edition is just the Bit depth.
Does not justify the cost of having the package.
You may not need to go that route but Just so you know if not already.
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Krischan on July 04, 2017, 11:40:02 PM
Also know that the difference between the Gold Edition and the Platinum Edition is just the Bit depth.

And more microphone positions afaik.
Title: Re: East West Sound Libraries
Post by: Qube on July 05, 2017, 12:06:21 AM
Qube

Also know that the difference between the Gold Edition and the Platinum Edition is just the Bit depth.
Does not justify the cost of having the package.
You may not need to go that route but Just so you know if not already.

I know that there are more articulations and mic positions in the gold / platinum version but those versions are also missing things like the piano which is in the silver version. Plus they cost an arse load of money. If I ever get to the point where I must have the extra bells and whistles then I'll probably just subscribe to their composer cloud.