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Title: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Pfaber11 on October 05, 2019, 11:38:02 AM
So just wondering which iteration of Basic over the years was your favorite . For me it is AGK classic and I've tried about 10 of them . The reason it's my favorite is it's just so easy to use don't get me wrong I'm no expert but I can get the job done with it , in what I've tried anyway. Mind you my games are pretty simple so far . My next favorite has to be STOS on the Atari 520STe . That was great fun and I think it was made by the same people who write pure basic now. Fantaisier or something. I would really like to get on with pure basic but I don't which is a shame . I also like Blitz3D and this is free now . It really works well for me in that it understands what I'm typing . Had a brief fling with Visual basic express edition some 12 years ago but found it to not be to my liking . I was trying to write games in it and found it to be pretty useless but that's just my opinion.
    Happy coding
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: GaborD on October 05, 2019, 11:46:15 AM
For me NB and AGK in the modern days and Blitz3D in the old days.
Due to NB never reaching a stable release, AGK wins in the end. :)
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: RemiD on October 05, 2019, 12:18:50 PM
blitzbasic is the best imo, easy to understand and concise, no unecessary bullshit 8)

i had planned to try nuclear basic language / engine, but apparently it disappeared...

i was intrigued by freebasic, because there was a wrapper for openb3d (or minib3d ?), but never took the time to try it...
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Steve Elliott on October 05, 2019, 01:47:19 PM
Nuclear BASIC by a mile.  The amazing speed and the clean simple syntax were spot on, a real shame it was abandoned.
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Qube on October 05, 2019, 06:53:47 PM
Talking BASIC only :

For 2D games I'd say AGK as it's so easy to learn and it's one that I've had the most fun with.

For apps then Visual BASIC which I've liked since VB 3 and VB.net ( still using Visual Studio 2015 ) as when coding Windows apps that need good integration with the MS ecosystem then .net pretty much has everything you'll need built in to that framework.
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: 3DzForMe on October 05, 2019, 08:08:12 PM
Sorry Qube, I just couldn't take to VB for actual gaming, I'd two door stop VB6 reference manuals. VB is great for front end stuff, prefer Blitz for good old game engine stuff. 8)

Even studied VB.net at college in my mid thirties, on a HNC BIT course, scored 96 percent in one exam, the examiners left a lib out, I wrote my own to make up for it!

Blitz 3D still does it all for me, can't see it changing soon. This old dogs getting a bit long in the tooth for new tricks;
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Qube on October 05, 2019, 09:15:26 PM
Sorry Qube, I just couldn't take to VB for actual gaming.
Oh God no way would I use VB for gaming either :o strictly applications only.
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: RemiD on October 05, 2019, 09:51:45 PM
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This old dogs getting a bit long in the tooth for new tricks
wtf does this mean ? ??? an english expression i suppose ?
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Dabz on October 05, 2019, 10:08:45 PM
Of course it can only be Locomotive BASIC, the one that started it all for me!
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Qube on October 05, 2019, 11:43:30 PM
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This old dogs getting a bit long in the tooth for new tricks
wtf does this mean ? ??? an english expression i suppose ?
getting a bit long in the tooth (https://knowyourphrase.com/long-in-the-tooth)
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Naughty Alien on October 06, 2019, 09:26:13 AM
..NB/NF, and now PB, only because NB/NF are gone..

I mean, look at this simplicity and straightforward approach..functions inside types and so on...real B3D V2...pitty it went away...ihh

(https://i.postimg.cc/yxF4kMv3/Screenshot-10-6-2019-4-23-21-PM.png)
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Pfaber11 on October 06, 2019, 06:39:29 PM
Naughty Alien have you gone down the pure basic route . I looked at it myself briefly but just didn't take to it . I took a look at free basic as well but with things like AGK on the market what's the point . Don't think free basic will handle 3d and pure basic can't do Android etc. I would of liked to of learnt pure basic but without a good book it would take me too long I think. Anyway was I right in thinking  PB is pure basic . please let me know how you get on with PB . Happy coding.
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: 3DzForMe on October 06, 2019, 07:50:20 PM
@Dabz:

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the original BlitzBasic for PC, the PC Floormat one... when i found that on the cover disc, and started using it, it just took me back to the 80's and reignited the programming fire I had one my Amstrad... it was an absolute joyous time!!!
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Naughty Alien on October 07, 2019, 01:27:58 AM
@PFaber11
..i found it very appealing because, it allows me to do industrial grade software as well, where a robust serial communication can be made with it and at same time 3D allows me to do machine visual preview , and so on..i did used B4J for this sort of things before (minus 3D graphics side)..as for 3D games side of things, after i went trough all examples, i can confidently say that its far ahead of AGK in 3D aspect..its basically a complete 3D engine (OGRE) embedded and works very well..long as desktops are game development target, its hard to see other software competing with flexibility/power of PB..i think its worth to give it a try..
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: MikeHart on October 07, 2019, 07:02:20 AM
@NaughtyAlien: how is its development going on atm? Some time ago i read some post from Fred that he moved to Poland and the PB development might slow down a lot.
One thing i wish for would be ability to theme/skin a whole app. In that regard nothing beats Python with QT5.
Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Naughty Alien on October 07, 2019, 01:14:07 PM
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Title: Re: Best BASIC iteration
Post by: Naughty Alien on October 07, 2019, 01:15:17 PM
.this was an accident post. :D
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