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Title: Employment philosophy
Post by: Matty on October 16, 2019, 23:27:04
Greetings....thought I'd share that over the last 4 months I've gradually decided to quit the rat race.  I can't afford it of course and will likely lose everything financially,  thankfully I have no dependents.

There's been a distinct lack of respect for my person in employment and life over many years that I'm turning my back on large swathes of this world.

No longer angry....just beginning to walk away.

From my journal...

Philosophy of employment - 2019-10-16
Philosophy of employment

I don't believe anymore in making someone else rich through my hard labour and being expected to be grateful for the roof over my head and food on the table as an exchange for my slavery making them rich.

I no longer perform tricks for masters who don't respect my person and expect me to be grateful for the 'opportunity' of doing so.


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Title: Re: Employment philosophy
Post by: 3DzForMe on October 17, 2019, 04:27:59
Matty,

Hope it goes well for you. Just bear in mind, sometimes it takes finding the right type of job.

I've had 4 job myself since leaving the military - and the 3rd one was with some pretty knuckle dragging cabbage patch dolls (I'm insulting the cabbage patch dolls at that too).  ;D

There tons of ways to live 'off grid' cheaply - please research your way forwards - good luck!
Title: Re: Employment philosophy
Post by: Naughty Alien on October 17, 2019, 04:56:49
I can tell you only this. After i had to leave typical way of life/country as everyone mostly has (stable job, go back home, blah blah), because of my political/social points of view, which ultimately forced me to work for myself, on my own, from zero ground,  for a  very first time in my life, in entirely different continent from where i came from, i earned more money in 1 year than i could earn for 10 years if i have had same job i have had, before i left whole thing. I do not regret one second 'losing a privilege' i have had before, if you could call it that way, financially speaking. I do miss some parts of scenery (Zugspitze) i have spent some nice time, but thats okay.

Do not underestimate yourself and self value. World is larger pond than those in power/position, want you to believe. You are a skilled guy from what i can tell, and do not waste that for someone else benefits.

Title: Re: Employment philosophy
Post by: 3DzForMe on October 17, 2019, 05:22:08
QuoteI can tell you only this. After i had to leave typical way of life/country as everyone mostly has (stable job, go back home, blah blah), because of my political/social points of view, which ultimately forced me to work for myself, on my own, from zero ground,  for a  very first time in my life, in entirely different continent from where i came from, i earned more money in 1 year than i could earn for 10 years if i have had same job i have had, before i left whole thing. I do not regret one second 'losing a privilege' i have had before, if you could call it that way, financially speaking. I do miss some parts of scenery (Zugspitze) i have spent some nice time, but thats okay.

Do not underestimate yourself and self value. World is larger pond than those in power/position, want you to believe. You are a skilled guy from what i can tell, and do not waste that for someone else benefits.

Inpsirational NA - I'm starting my t-minus 2 year plan now (Some peeps might say do it now...... I'm erring on their side tbh.................................................)

But - I've one bucket list thing to tick before I fully entertain my goal of giving it all up - if I manage to do that without majorly ruining myself then it'll be welcome to another decade on the planet - doing something entirely different.   :D
Title: Re: Employment philosophy
Post by: RemiD on October 17, 2019, 06:54:18
i am preparing to do a similar thing, have enough savings to last several years, reduce my spendings, to have to earn less money, and so to work less, and have more free time to do what i want, when i want, where i want.  :D
but you have to be smart about how you organize your lifestyle so that you keep a good enough level of security, confort, cleanliness, to not become a bum ;)
Title: Re: Employment philosophy
Post by: Xerra on October 17, 2019, 11:01:38
Quote from: GfK on October 17, 2019, 10:30:58
Good luck selling that philosophy to the DWP.

The man has a point.

Much as I'd love to be able to retire tomorrow and say "Fuck you" to all the bullshit that comes with my job, I'm realistic enough to know that it's no simple process. All I want from life is a nice remote house, the cat and a couple of dogs, enough money to not have to work and to be able to do what the hell I want, whenever I want. Ain't going to happen without me working to get there, however.
Title: Re: Employment philosophy
Post by: RemiD on October 17, 2019, 12:18:10
personaly it is not a problem for me to work as long as it is well paid and the hours are flexible, but i am not interested in running like a hamster to pile a lot of virtual money units (that some people can create in billions with no counterpart in the current moneytary system... >:D )
Title: Re: Employment philosophy
Post by: GaborD on October 17, 2019, 12:56:16
I have made the move to only work for myself quite a few years ago and I have not regretted it.
Sure, it's less "safe" than having the guarantee of a salary, but it's also much more rewarding and much more enjoyable.
In my view, life is too short anyway, no time to waste on stuff that doesn't really make you happy. Hamstering to make others rich definitely did not do it for me.
Personally, as long as the basic needs are met, more money would not make me happier. Being in control of my life and doing what I love does.
If you love your work, it's not really work but fun. (phonecalls with some annoying customers excluded hahaha)

I do think too many people work all their life "for the riches" and then drop dead from the stress or have health issues that keep them for actually enjoying that little bit at the end they strived to prop up with all the accumulated money. Well, can't really take it with you, can you?
In studies that interviewed old people on their death beds about what they regret "I wish I had worked more!" was generally not the answer they gave. :)
Title: Re: Employment philosophy
Post by: Santiago on October 17, 2019, 13:09:03
The most difficult process is to realize that one does not die by quitting his job, the world does not end, and new things always arise, if you are willing to take a little risk.

Almost all of my life I was independent, usually, it always went badly economically, but when I had money I was not happier than before.

I always knew clearly what I wanted to do in my life, in my case I like to navigate, and I do that, when I don't navigate, program, 3D model my navigation simulator.

Giving up system life is like opening the windows and breathing fresh air.

And I also remember that when I worked in an office, my brain ran out, and I returned home wanting to program, but I was tired and without mental strength.

Good luck!!! I think it is the best decision or philosophy that you can have !!!
Title: Re: Employment philosophy
Post by: Dabz on October 17, 2019, 21:18:09
I work to live now... I'd pick up dog shite for £5 p/h if it meant I could still jump on a plane and go see the world... I dont [pick up dog eggs] obviously, but I could never imagine myself "not earning", the grunt in me says thats the only way I can have nice things and see nice places... And I'm not going to argue with it because its true!

Dabz
Title: Re: Employment philosophy
Post by: 3DzForMe on October 17, 2019, 22:30:38
QuoteI always knew clearly what I wanted to do in my life, in my case I like to navigate, and I do that, when I don't navigate, program, 3D model my navigation simulator.

Giving up system life is like opening the windows and breathing fresh air.

And I also remember that when I worked in an office, my brain ran out, and I returned home wanting to program, but I was tired and without mental strength.

Yep, been there - between 2005 to 2015 was a struggle to have any coding mojo - happily, I have a little now ;) Not as much as I'd like - but I realise the a good happy life is about doing diverse things and trying not to get a little to OCD about finishing stuff. Although a splash of attention to detail is ALWAYS good now and then - just be careful to curb it on occasion. :D