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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hardcoal on April 23, 2018, 09:32:00

Title: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Hardcoal on April 23, 2018, 09:32:00
Hi..

I need to test my editor.. but I have no time for graphics etc..

all I need is someone that want to make a simple game..

a simple game means can be also a. (when i say 2d i mean that it will be a scroll game, but the objects can be 3D)

1) 2D spaceship shooting game..
all i need is the graphics..

2) a simple ball game 2D

3) a mario like game..

etc..

I don't want anything that is too innovative ..

In the next faze,  the user can build his own maps..

I personally prefer a 2D space shooting game.


I think it is worth a try.. I bet some of you have already libraries of elements..

worth a shot..

The editor is not ready but its getting their



Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Steve Elliott on April 23, 2018, 09:38:54
https://playniax.itch.io/galaga-essentials-art-pack

https://playniax.itch.io/space-shooter-art
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Hardcoal on April 23, 2018, 09:47:14
thanks steve.. that's a good idea..
any place for more good packs ?
does it includes sounds as well?

Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Steve Elliott on April 23, 2018, 09:54:57
 ;)

https://www.appgamekit.com/dlc/sound-library

https://www.appgamekit.com/dlc/giant-asset-pack-1

Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Matty on April 23, 2018, 18:54:50
Hi Hardcoal.  Before you decide to buy a pack I have an offer for you.

I'm learning and improving my drawing and I'd love to draw some spaceship graphics for a 2d vertical scrolling shooter for you - I can't promise the same professional quality as the packs but I'm eager to do some graphics.

Your post is just what I'd been looking for.  I'd love to draw graphics for someone's project even if it's just as place holders.

To see my work look in the two threads of mine in the artwork forum. Or look here:

http://www.mattiesgames.com/art/rated.php

http://www.mattiesgames.com/assets/

A picture from 2016:
(https://www.syntaxbomb.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mattiesgames.com%2Fart%2Fp82.jpg&hash=f43dccd3cf7789e7287ffeabbf86c319375adef5)


Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Derron on April 23, 2018, 19:31:15
@ matty
As your drawings are far from "photorealistic paintings" or "rendered assets" I would suggest you create some "paper art" - as if you have torn it from a sheet of paper - means you could even "fake" some "lines" in the background for making it look like grid-paper cutouts.

This allows to add things like "drop shadows" without looking awkward. Might add a "have seen already" but still unique look - and will of course help "hiding" that you are still in the learning stage of drawing (not meant bad!).


Edit: and now to the cool ideas: If you have these space ships with their "torn paper border" then how to do explosions? RIGHT - you set the paper on fire. So no fancy explosion of the ship but some kind of "short flame and left was a pile of ashes" thingy.
If things need to explode rather than burn, you could just tear apart the sprite into x subsprites - and these then could become some particles fading out/moving like firework.


bye
Ron
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Pakz on April 23, 2018, 20:45:20
https://www.gamedevmarket.net/

The linked site above kind of impressed me. The internet is starting to fill up with usable art.

https://opengameart.org/

The site above is a good free resource.

I worked on a sprite editor for a while. I just bit the bullet and for a couple of days and made a dozen+ tutorial video's for it. Best is to just work hard and domthings yourself or you keep waiting :)
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Steve Elliott on April 23, 2018, 21:18:27
Some good links here, maybe they should be added to a 'sticky thread' for future reference.
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Hardcoal on April 23, 2018, 21:31:27
Matty.. anything original is great.. i really loved your drawings.. (most of them :) )
the second reason i wanted someone's work is because its a motivator as well..

I would like you to plan a game.. a scroll game.. and i will try to execute it.. that's the idea..

I don't look for fancy graphics..

Than i can concentrate on the editor itself




Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Matty on April 23, 2018, 22:05:49
Ok Hardcoal.  I'm about to head to work but tomorrow is a public holiday.  I actually had an idea myself on the weekend just gone that you have tapped into.

I'll try some pictures and post them either in this thread or in the artwork forum and we can see how we go.  Talk soon.  Have to go.
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Hardcoal on April 23, 2018, 22:16:43
Cool... You can also send it to my email.. hardcoal@gmail.com
if this will take shape we will find a more convenient way to communicate and share
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Matty on April 24, 2018, 22:42:43
Hi Hardcoal.

I did some work this morning and last night after work.

I have to say - I'm not all that great at this - so it's definitely not the same standard as those packs you've looked at, but I do enjoy it. If you want to use my work and you want me to continue then let me know.

I've attached a screenshot of a simple blitz3d demo/mockup and also a zip with the work so far.

I fully understand if you'd rather use other art but I'm happy to work on this - it's good for my own skill development anyway (long way to go)

http://www.mattiesgames.com/bbgame/hardcoal_space.zip (http://www.mattiesgames.com/bbgame/hardcoal_space.zip)

(https://www.syntaxbomb.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mattiesgames.com%2Fbbgame%2Fhardcoal_space_screenshot.jpg&hash=60a955130e1608004c86132a489748f7dab297ac)
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Hardcoal on April 25, 2018, 04:40:18
yea man.. it looks fine enough..

i want from you is to tell me what to do.

you are the manager of the game.. i'm the executor.. i need the graphics .. and audio..

each faze i will send you the progress..

you will need my editor, at some point.

we can start with how the spaceship will move..

and so on..

step by step lets see where it gets us..

so feel free to send me your assets

cheers
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Derron on April 25, 2018, 06:35:25
@ Hardcoal
I think you should post your progress here too - at least if you want to get feedback (means criticism by me ;-))


@ Matty
I think a space game needs a parallax background: so create 1-2 more background layers (trust yourself and add slight color variations, not everything in space is white-to-gray-to-black).
Also this means Hardcoal's Editor needs to tackle: repeating-tiles (y-wise), listening to Y-changes with a varying factor.


bye
Ron
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Hardcoal on April 25, 2018, 06:50:39
I have no probs with criticism.. I actually Need it..
Some things im aware of and are not in my first priority.. like GUI looks..

My main concentration is Still The Internal Engine , Functionality And Debugging..

Then comes, Ease of use.. 

I don't have Time to make backgrounds and so on.. that's why I need Matty's Help.. In the first place..

Sure.. I'll be glad to post my progress.. actually its very encouraging.. So I will try Starting from now..

A) Ive managed to solve the Clone Map Process..
B) I was now working on Turning Group of Meshes into one Mesh.. for physical purposes..

My Blueprint works fine for now.. And I'm trying Various types of Game Controls like Mario style..
Spaceship 2D style.. and so On.

Everytime I try something I encounter problems that needs to be solved..

It's a Slow Process..

I did awesome stuff like when you create a blueprint, you can save it and than attach it to any object simply by dragging it from a window folder..

About tiles.. I will need help with that.. I know nothing about tiles..
But this will come later..

Ok, Cheers
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Matty on April 25, 2018, 23:05:05
Hi HardCoal - this is a bit more than I expected and wanted to do.

In your first post you simply said you wanted some graphics.

In your later post you now say you want me to design the whole thing and use your editor in parts to put it together.

That's a lot more than I wanted to do.

All I wanted to do was some graphics and leave the rest to you (as in the first post).

I think I'll leave this where it is for now. The thing is - over the last couple of years my interest in writing games for myself has started to dry up...can't explain why..but I don't play video games anymore although I have been trying to 'push myself' and 'motivate myself' to find it interesting again but I can't...it's dead to me the video game bug of sorts...I don't know why and I don't even know if I'm disappointed in myself or not - all I know is that that way of life is over for me.
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: iWasAdam on April 26, 2018, 07:21:13
@Matty
Just had a look at the source you provided. I am VERY impressed with the graphics, especially how they translate down into lower resolutions.

Just been looking at the supplied bb code - it's very nicely laid out and super readable - a definate thumbs up from me on that front too  8)

How would you feel about me taking them and continuing as you started - The only thing you would have to do is make the graphics - no management, no hassle, etc :)
You don't have to think about any code or anything else - i'll handle all of that side ?
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Derron on April 26, 2018, 07:53:29
Seems nobody is interested in that "paper cutout/tear-apart"-look for sprites (they could look more "rough" than the scaled-down-to-look-prettier/less-sketchy approach). No interest? Disliking the idea? Forgot to read that post? ...


bye
Ron
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Hardcoal on April 26, 2018, 08:20:41
Hi matty ☺️
All is fine man.. Plus you didn't understand me..
I didn't want you to do any work, i just meant that you may want to view it in the editor generally..
But it's fine anyway, i don't want you to feel any berdon,
So let's put this behind us, i will manage..

You lost interest in games cause you grew up..
Its not the same now. Same here in many ways.

It may come back again though, you'll see.

Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Hardcoal on April 26, 2018, 12:23:23
I think i will buy some of the packs.. thats the best idea so far.. :)
Matty I just noticed the Zip file youve added.. Thanks. I like the spaceship.. and so on..


@derron,, which post are you referring too.. i have no clue what you are talking about.
bare in mind some english limitations by my side..
Title: Re: Anyone Is interested in helping me make a simple game..
Post by: Derron on April 26, 2018, 14:23:21
The post right after Matty's drawn ships/sketches.

https://www.syntaxbomb.com/index.php/topic,4465.msg16037.html#msg16037

bye
Ron