Not a problem (feel free to more this I didnt know which other section to post in), but built this yesterday:
CPU: Intel Core i7 7700K
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CPU Cooler
MB: ASUS Prime Z270-AR
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD
HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB 7200RPM
PSU: Fractal Edison M Gold 650W Power Supply
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Mid Tower Black
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 64bit
Optical: ASUS DRW-24D5MT 24x DVD Writer
Here are some pics:
The boxes:(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1kwB6V0AEPgmJ.jpg)
RAM: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1mN1yUMAAJnJa.jpg)
CPU Cooler:(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1mWqnUAAAOpRb.jpg)
M/B and GPU installed: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1m4lCUwAInwJE.jpg)
The mess: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1nNFkU0AAz_UY.jpg)
Its alive! (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1ndhUU0AAamOj.jpg)
Cool BIOS: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1ndhcUMAEsEgQ.jpg)
Windows 10 installed: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1npoyU0AAOol1.jpg)
Notes:
I would prefer the CPU directly into the M/B instead of ASUS's "easy" clip thing...
I wish I had installed the CPU cooler after I installed the motherboard in the case and plugged in the cables, it made it was difficult to plug them in!
It killed my bad back doing the install... but that was yesterday :)
Overall looking good!
You doing negative or positive air flow? I'm curious as 20C is pretty representative of negative air flow (although you did have the case open).
I'm also surprised that you didn't go for AMD's new Ryzen stuff. It's actually pretty killer, despite needing to update the microcode every month until it's out of the "buyers" beta phase that AMD decided to go with instead of more in-house testing.
Also, props for Corsair Vengeance LPX RAM. It's the only type I use anymore, along with Corsair's PSUs.
Quote from: Goodlookinguy on June 09, 2017, 06:04:36
You doing negative or positive air flow? I'm curious as 20C is pretty representative of negative air flow (although you did have the case open).
With the case all closed up the BIOS reports 23C on the CPU and 21C on the MB. I've just left the case fans as default hoping for a balanced air flow.
Quote from: Goodlookinguy on June 09, 2017, 06:04:36I'm also surprised that you didn't go for AMD's new Ryzen stuff. It's actually pretty killer, despite needing to update the microcode every month until it's out of the "buyers" beta phase that AMD decided to go with instead of more in-house testing.
I nearly did, but wanted more Ghz! 8)
But, but, IPS (instructions per second) is what they use to measure CPUs nowadays, not hertz. Ryzen 1800x at 4.0GHz was scoring on par with that Intel model at 5.0GHz if I recall correctly. Even worse, the AMD CPU was not running correctly yet. Only with the most recent microcode update does memory timing appear to be fixed for most cases.
Well, it doesn't matter, you got a new machine to enjoy, cuddle, and replace parts of when one part inevitably gives out in 2 years. Enjoy it and most of all, don't let the dust build. Had to repair way too many client computers that had literal rabbit sized balls of dust in them and the people didn't know why their computers weren't working.
That cpu cooler. :o
Quote from: Goodlookinguy on June 09, 2017, 06:30:12
But, but, IPS (instructions per second) is what they use to measure CPUs nowadays, not hertz.
I know, I know... but I'm old school and I've grown up with more hertz the better ;D
QuoteWell, it doesn't matter, you got a new machine to enjoy, cuddle
Thanks! :)
QuoteHad to repair way too many client computers that had literal rabbit sized balls of dust in them and the people didn't know why their computers weren't working.
The case has decent filters... the last PC I built (and typing on right now as the new one isnt fully setup yet!) was in 2009, the only things I've upgrade was the GPU and added an SSD a few years ago!
Quote from: Rooster on June 09, 2017, 06:47:01
That cpu cooler. :o
Its not a CPU cooler, its a high rise apartment block :P
Quote from: therevills on June 09, 2017, 06:58:47
Its not a CPU cooler, its a high rise apartment block :P
For those big dust bunnys? :P
Quote from: Rooster on June 09, 2017, 07:02:29
Quote from: therevills on June 09, 2017, 06:58:47
Its not a CPU cooler, its a high rise apartment block :P
For those big dust bunnys? :P
I'm not sure if I can joke about this one. I want to, but I've actually had to clean out a CPU Cooler of that same size that had thick dust between every blade. I've never had that hard of a time cleaning a CPU Cooler since.
I live in the most polluted country in the USA right now. It's known for the high amount of dust that builds up and whatnot, so it's not fair to compare most places to this place. If I can resurface a particular photo from a friend of mine, I have to show you. It was the most dust we ever saw in a computer ever. Cellphone picture quality is that of an old flip-phone since that's when the picture was taken, but it's still pretty clear. By the way, the diagnosis was overheating due to extreme dust content that was preventing air flow and locking up the fans. :'(
Quote from: Goodlookinguy on June 09, 2017, 07:12:40
I'm not sure if I can joke about this one. I want to, but I've actually had to clean out a CPU Cooler of that same size that had thick dust between every blade. I've never had that hard of a time cleaning a CPU Cooler since.
:o
I think you may have cured me of my jealousy.
The main issue I had was the that fans were mounted between the groups of metal blades and couldn't be removed easily. So I decided to just use my compressed air cans to blow it out, but the groups of dust were like snakes coiled in one side, out the other, and then in the next one again. Like they had been woven onto the blades. I eventually got some tiny plastic tools and managed to collect multiple segments of the dust by hand, which then allowed me to use the compressed air cans correctly.
Damn I envy you. Nice setup.
As you develop commercially, its such a high end system not bad regarding trying to find out if your games run on low end systems?
Quote from: MikeHart on June 09, 2017, 09:06:28
As you develop commercially, its such a high end system not bad regarding trying to find out if your games run on low end systems?
We've currently got the following machines setup to test multiple configs:
* Windows 10: The new build (i7 7700K)
* Windows 7 & 8.1 (dual boot): Old dev box (i7 920 - over 8 years old)
* Windows 10: 2 year old laptop
* Windows 7: 5 year old laptop
* Windows XP: Very old celeron box
* 2 x Mac Minis (current gen and the previous)
So we've got it covered :)
Ok, you have done your housework. :D
That is one hell of a beast of a CPU cooler. Things have certainly moved on since I last built a PC ( 15+ years ago in the glory days of Pentium 4 and AMD Athlon ) where CPU coolers were at the most no more than 3 inches. When the CPU cooler is bigger than the PSU I would kinda worry a little.
P.S. Please dust the bottom of your Samsung monitor.
Quote from: Qube on June 10, 2017, 05:26:56
That is one hell of a beast of a CPU cooler.
I was going to go with the "slim" design one but it was more expensive!
Quote
P.S. Please dust the bottom of your Samsung monitor.
Done ;) That one in the photo is a spare I had stored at the bottom of the walk in robe!
Still transferring files... this is what I was dreading, 8 years worth of stuff to go thru! Then setting up all the software and dev tools!
Only 8 years of stuff? I have about 25TB of stuff over the last 15 years. I never go through most of it, I just keep transferring it over...
Setting up the software and dev tools doesn't take that long. This is my up-to-date install list. I end up installing a system like every 6 months, so I'm used to this.
This is what I install: JDK, Android SDK, VS2017, JetBrain's stuff, vMicro, MinGW, Eclipse, PhpStorm, Notepad++, Android Studio, TortoiseGit, TortoiseHg, 010 editor, and FileZilla
After that I install like 20 other pieces of software for video codecs/watching (CCCP, VLC), photo editing (Photoshop, Affinity Photo, Graphics Gale), sound/music editing (GoldWave, forgot the name of the sound maker), local server (xampp), video encoding (MKVToolnix, MP4Box, Handbrake), office programs (OpenOffice), remote administration (PuTTY), video streaming (OBS Studio, Elgato), VPN Service (OpenVPN), Win 8/10 (Classic Shell), zip software (Bandizip, 7zip), PDF reader (Foxit Reader), communication/development (Skype, Chrome, Firefox), and network analysis (Wireshark, Pingy (my software))
This is what I do on every time reinstall. I have all of the software on a USB drive so that I don't have to remember. It's too much when I look at it on a list like this.
Quote from: Goodlookinguy on June 10, 2017, 06:49:16
Only 8 years of stuff? I have about 25TB of stuff over the last 15 years. I never go through most of it, I just keep transferring it over...
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/old_files.png)
Accurate view of that. XKCD knows how to nail things like that though.
Looks like a serious piece of kit...Keyboard looks boring in comparison though :o
Quote from: Steve Elliott on June 10, 2017, 12:58:18
Looks like a serious piece of kit...Keyboard looks boring in comparison though :o
How did I miss that? That keyboard does look boring. Maybe it's more about usability rather than aesthetics.
lol. I do find I get much less strain typing on a small wireless keyboard - and it takes-up far less space (and no wire clutter). Small wireless mouse too. A very comfy setup.
Wireless Advent keyboard, notebook mouse from Logitech. I'll have to get some links.
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/computer-accessories/mice-and-keyboards/keyboards/advent-akbmm15-wireless-keyboard-10100827-pdt.html
I'm all for reducing wire clutter, but having to replace batteries would drive me nuts.
Quote from: Goodlookinguy on June 10, 2017, 06:49:16
Only 8 years of stuff?
Well 8 years since the last build, I've got years and years of other data...
Quote from: Steve Elliott on June 10, 2017, 12:58:18
Keyboard looks boring in comparison though :o
Haha! Yeah... but I've been using it for the 8 years of the old dev box, havent missed a bit and if you look closely you can see the text has come off some of the keys!
I've recently bought a new Logitech G105 keyboard... now need a new mouse to replace my aging Logitech MX518.
Dropbox took nearly all day yesterday to download and sync!
Quote from: therevills on June 11, 2017, 01:19:50
Quote from: Goodlookinguy on June 10, 2017, 06:49:16
Only 8 years of stuff?
Well 8 years since the last build, I've got years and years of other data...
It's a hard habit to break, huh? It all seems important, but most of it probably isn't.
Quote from: therevills on June 11, 2017, 01:19:50
Quote from: Steve Elliott on June 10, 2017, 12:58:18
Keyboard looks boring in comparison though :o
Haha! Yeah... but I've been using it for the 8 years of the old dev box, havent missed a bit and if you look closely you can see the text has come off some of the keys!
I have a tendency to wear down the nubs on the F and J keys after about 3/4 years, making it unusable. So I'm astonished that you managed to keep it going for 8 years. (I do type at 200 WPM, so friction might have something to do with my problem)
best keyboard I every used was the original Microsoft Ergonomic Elite it was a dream to use. Second is Apples own aluminium keyboards.
PC keyboard mostly feel tacky and click to me
Oh yes, I love the keyboard on my Imac. Have to find something similar for my PC.
I don't like giving Apple credit for anything, but you know what, I never thought about this before. My Apple keyboard from my iMac is the only keyboard I have still going 6 years later. I didn't even realize that the nubs hadn't worn down. They must have used tougher material than a lot of the keyboards I use normally (which are usually super flat keyboards).
@therevills Now that it's been a few days, how are you liking the new machine? Does it feel like a worthwhile upgrade from what you had?
Weirdly enough I used to be on the upgrade train and upgraded every new bit of tech I got. After a while I noticed the speed increase was OK BUT negligible so I stopped now I just use a machine that actually runs the stuff I need.
Quote from: EdzUp on June 13, 2017, 12:17:34
I used to be on the upgrade train
Same here, but need to watch the pennies (cents) now. :P
Quote from: Goodlookinguy on June 13, 2017, 12:08:49
@therevills Now that it's been a few days, how are you liking the new machine? Does it feel like a worthwhile upgrade from what you had?
I havent had to to fully use it, but it boots and in Windows in 10 seconds, I've only played one game (Rising Storm 2) on ultra settings and its as smooth as butter!
I'm currently downloading some of the newer games in my collection which I havent really play due to performance issues on the old box.
Just played DOOM on ultra... so nice and smooth! ; :)
:o
Watching these images, my mouth watering, I will never have a pc with those characteristics.
Quote from: Yue on June 23, 2017, 13:34:30
:o
Watching these images, my mouth watering, I will never have a pc with those characteristics.
Never say never!
(https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/magicschoolbus/images/6/60/01-frizzle.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080803012111)
Quote from: Yue on June 23, 2017, 13:34:30
:o
Watching these images, my mouth watering, I will never have a pc with those characteristics.
Well I have been saving up for awhile :) ... and I dont intend to build another for at least 5 years.
I got the same CPU cooler -- while massive, it's also very quiet, much better than most of the others I've seen/heard, would buy it again in a heartbeat.
(Tip: you may want to check your BIOS for the CPU fan settings, mine defaulted to 60% speed by default, but it allowed me to scale it down to 20% as well making it completely silent, and auto-increases when needed)