Artificial Intelligence advances in Chess - the future

[Matty]

Question:
Do you see a day when the only decision a computer chess opponent need make is whether it is going to let the human win, lose or draw even before the first piece is moved?

[Steve Elliott]

That day is already here.  Alpha Zero is unbeatable by a human.

[iWasAdam]

1997 DeepBlue beat world champion at chess:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Garry_Kasparov

Deep Blue's win was seen as symbolically significant, a sign that artificial intelligence was catching up to human intelligence, and could defeat one of humanity's great intellectual champions. Later analysis tended to play down Kasparov's loss as a result of uncharacteristically bad play on Kasparov's part, and play down the intellectual value of chess as a game that can be defeated by brute force.

[TomToad]

[Kryzon]

They had adapted the DeepMind A.I. to play Starcraft 2:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cUTMhmVh1qs

[Pakz]

CPU's need to get faster a lot more. Computers are at insects brain speeds now afaik.

It takes 9 hours to generate 1 minute of openai's music. This with the singing vocals requiring human adjustements.

[Steve Elliott]

Chess and Go are the most complex games, yet neural network computers are now far superior.  Look up Alpha Zero and Alpha Go.

[Matty]

So....how would you feel if you sat down to play a game and you knew the AI was really either just going to let you ein...if you won....or make you lose....and there was no way of changing this.....without bending the parameters or metagaming it.

[Steve Elliott]

I would just try to win, no other thoughts would cross my mind.

[Matty]

Interesting.  If I knew it was no challenge for the AI I'd muck around with it - it might not realise I too want to lose...

[Steve Elliott]

Chess is a beautiful game, a complex game of strategy and tactics, but it is also a battle!  The ultimate goal is to destroy your opponent.

[Matty]

Maybe so....but it can also be enjoyable to mess with the opponent's mind...make them think you have some strategy that requires you to lose...perhaps the real battle is elsewhere.....

[Matty]

Or maybe you're playing for a team who you dont to win for personal reasons....

[Matty]

Or perhaps you want to see their reaction if your objective of win loss you shift by rolling a dice every few minutes....

[ahuang]

most chess computers and engines are so strong now that they are not fun to play against. there is a huge demand for a weak chess engine that plays "human-like" moves and gives us average humans an enjoyable game.