New pi4 with more memory and new Pi OS

Started by Steve Elliott, May 28, 2020, 08:52:05

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Steve Elliott

The pi4 is now available with 8GB of memory:

https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b?variant=31994565689406

And a new 'Pi OS' available too in preparation for the follow-up 64-bit version currently available in beta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD67xfSvQrE
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Steve Elliott

The new 'Pi OS 32-bit' runs everything as normal and breaks no apps.  The new naming convention of 'Pi OS' is the stepping stone to the Pi OS 64-bit currently in beta and with an 8Gb Raspberry Pi and Vulkan driver support on the way should introduce some significant improvements.
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Qube

Oo er, an 8GB version :o - To buy or not to buy?

I guess it'll go nicely with my Competition Pro joystick that arrived today ;D - Nice and authentic with memories of the microswitches clicking away.

Also arrived was a new case for my current 4GB Pi 4 - GeekPi Pi 4 Case with Fan 40X40X10mm and 4 Heatsinks to keep the Pi super cool under stress.
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Until the next time.

Xerra

That the original Competition Pro joystick with the 9 pin connection?

I was looking at Ebay a while back for getting hold of one of those but think none of the ones I saw came in at under £40. Around the same price as they cost 40 years ago when they first came out :-)
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Steve Elliott

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Oo er, an 8GB version :o - To buy or not to buy?

I think they all sold out in a day lol - but you can be informed automatically from several sites when more are in stock.  I'll get one next month to replace my pi3 and run 2 pi4's instead of one of each.

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I guess it'll go nicely with my Competition Pro joystick that arrived today ;D - Nice and authentic with memories of the microswitches clicking away.

I have one for the C64, a very good quality retro joystick - but as you know you can now get them with USB connectors too.  Yep they're not cheap Xerra.

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Also arrived was a new case for my current 4GB Pi 4 - GeekPi Pi 4 Case with Fan

Cool looking case.

Win11 64Gb 12th Gen Intel i9 12900K 3.2Ghz Nvidia RTX 3070Ti 8Gb
Win11 16Gb 12th Gen Intel i5 12450H 2Ghz Nvidia RTX 2050 8Gb
Win11  Pro 8Gb Celeron Intel UHD Graphics 600
Win10/Linux Mint 16Gb 4th Gen Intel i5 4570 3.2GHz, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 2Gb
macOS 32Gb Apple M2Max
pi5 8Gb
Spectrum Next 2Mb

Qube

Quote from: Xerra on May 29, 2020, 20:28:48
That the original Competition Pro joystick with the 9 pin connection?
Quote from: Steve Elliott on May 29, 2020, 20:56:35
but as you know you can now get them with USB connectors too.  Yep they're not cheap Xerra.
Should have said that it's the USB one. I showed the missus and she laughed at how basic looking and clicky it was :o - No appreciation for the microswitched classics :P ( try using a modern joystick on retro games that require high speed waggling )
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MSI MEG 342C 34" QD-OLED Monitor

Until the next time.

Kryzon

What are people using the Pi's for? Like a TV box?

Steve Elliott

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What are people using the Pi's for?

I use one as a second computer; it runs completely silently, takes up very little room and very little power to run. So if I'm working on the PC I have a dedicated second screen for web browsing or to make notes for ideas, without having to shut down a tab on the PC and disturb my workflow or take resources away from the PC.  The second pi runs an arcade machine emulator.  I like the idea of an arcade machine in the man cave running in the background.
Win11 64Gb 12th Gen Intel i9 12900K 3.2Ghz Nvidia RTX 3070Ti 8Gb
Win11 16Gb 12th Gen Intel i5 12450H 2Ghz Nvidia RTX 2050 8Gb
Win11  Pro 8Gb Celeron Intel UHD Graphics 600
Win10/Linux Mint 16Gb 4th Gen Intel i5 4570 3.2GHz, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 2Gb
macOS 32Gb Apple M2Max
pi5 8Gb
Spectrum Next 2Mb

Xerra

Quote from: Qube on May 30, 2020, 06:03:46
Should have said that it's the USB one. I showed the missus and she laughed at how basic looking and clicky it was :o - No appreciation for the microswitched classics :P ( try using a modern joystick on retro games that require high speed waggling )

This is a picture of the one I got with the C64 big model that I got at Xmas. Looks the same as the one that comes with the mini but it's actually properly micro-switched like the original model. The mini 64 ones were shite and I hated trying to play the games with it so I was well happy they took the complaints on board.

This one runs via USB so I'm now wondering if there's any kind of drivers so I could use it on a Mac and possibly build support for my games into it. Be great fun trying to play them using a REAL joystick again.
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Qube

Mac Studio M1 Max ( 10 core CPU - 24 core GPU ), 32GB LPDDR5, 512GB SSD,
Beelink SER7 Mini Gaming PC, Ryzen 7 7840HS 8-Core 16-Thread 5.1GHz Processor, 32G DDR5 RAM 1T PCIe 4.0 SSD
MSI MEG 342C 34" QD-OLED Monitor

Until the next time.

Kryzon

Quote from: Steve Elliott on May 30, 2020, 13:55:08
I use one as a second computer; it runs completely silently, takes up very little room and very little power to run. So if I'm working on the PC I have a dedicated second screen for web browsing or to make notes for ideas, without having to shut down a tab on the PC and disturb my workflow or take resources away from the PC.  The second pi runs an arcade machine emulator.  I like the idea of an arcade machine in the man cave running in the background.
Thanks Steve, sounds cool. I like the portable arcade machine idea, should be very convenient.

Steve Elliott

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Thanks Steve, sounds cool. I like the portable arcade machine idea, should be very convenient.

lol well it was.  Then I switched it on one day and all the colours were not displaying correctly at all and games looked terrible (all games).  Now if the pi foundation had actually continued with a full sized HDMI cable input I could have just swapped a cable to see if that was the problem!  Instead I bought an official cable to convert from full size to pi4 sized HDMI, so error checking is more tricky...It could have overheated and got damaged, re-loading games didn't solve the problem so perhaps not a software problem, or it could be a corrupt sd card - which means re-installing everything.  Games, bezels and settings on 100 games.  A faulty HDMI Cable might have saved me a lot of time (and money) diagnosing the cause...At last running a pi4 from a SSD is now possible officially and should be much more reliable than a SD Card.  I intended to backup my SD Card when everything was configured exactly as I wanted on the 100 games, but ofcourse it broke before then.
Win11 64Gb 12th Gen Intel i9 12900K 3.2Ghz Nvidia RTX 3070Ti 8Gb
Win11 16Gb 12th Gen Intel i5 12450H 2Ghz Nvidia RTX 2050 8Gb
Win11  Pro 8Gb Celeron Intel UHD Graphics 600
Win10/Linux Mint 16Gb 4th Gen Intel i5 4570 3.2GHz, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 2Gb
macOS 32Gb Apple M2Max
pi5 8Gb
Spectrum Next 2Mb