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« Reply #90 on: August 24, 2020, 09:03:16 PM »
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-24/sydney-catholic-archbishop-warns-pm-against-coronavirus-vaccine/12588578

Basically what has come to light is that the Oxford vaccine uses human foetal tissue to develop the vaccine.

The politicians argue the ethical considerations are historical and understood a long time ago because this method used in other vaccines commonly.

However - it was probably not public knowledge until now.

Think for a moment though on what this practice actually involves:

A baby foetus which looks like a very tiny person is aborted by choice and then researchers dissect the foetus to extract cells from internal organs in order to manufacture a vaccine for x number of doses.

In other words for a steady supply of vaccine a number of foetuses must always be available to harvest cells from.

Also think of the desensitization of the medical professionals to this process as they dispassionately cut up the foetus for resources over and over again.

The ethics may be settled in politicians minds but I doubt the public would be so happy to hear about it.

I am not for or against voluntary abortions - it's complex - but having a bank of foetuses from which to harvest cells to manufacture medical compounds seems diabolical to me.

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« Reply #91 on: August 30, 2020, 02:20:11 AM »
From a book I own from 2009...

Quote:"In severe cases, free to air channels may be infected by CNN live feeds for up to 24 hours."

Quote 2:"If you believe you have contracted a pandemic beat-up, remain at home and isolate yourself as much as possible."

Neat huh...

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« Reply #92 on: September 24, 2020, 05:03:52 PM »
The most wonderful thing about lockdown is I am free to write computer games and even while unemployed no one nor myself can argue I'm wasting my time nor would be better stressed out looking for work because:

A) There's nothing else to do when every normally meaningful activity is cancelled

B) There are no actual jobs anyway for me

C)All social activity which I'd love to pursue is locked away

All of which means I can code games to my heart's content with no valid reason not to.

Heck I can even code from midnight to dawn and sleep in the afternoon if I choose......

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« Reply #93 on: September 24, 2020, 06:47:48 PM »
I still work a normal 36 hour week. Probably stretched a little bit as I'm less regimental about my 8am - 4pm schedule but the time at my desk usually remains about the same. What about everyone else? Other people off work completely or also working from home? Are you managing, or in dire financial shit?

When this lockdown business first happened, I thought I'd probably have taken 80% wages for a few months and enjoyed some serious time off like Matty has, but I'm not so sure now. As tempting as it sounds to be in front of the computer writing games or playing them for weeks on end, I think it's probably quite detrimental to some peoples sanity.

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« Reply #94 on: September 24, 2020, 06:53:09 PM »
I still work a normal 36 hour week. Probably stretched a little bit as I'm less regimental about my 8am - 4pm schedule but the time at my desk usually remains about the same. What about everyone else? Other people off work completely or also working from home? Are you managing, or in dire financial shit?

When this lockdown business first happened, I thought I'd probably have taken 80% wages for a few months and enjoyed some serious time off like Matty has, but I'm not so sure now. As tempting as it sounds to be in front of the computer writing games or playing them for weeks on end, I think it's probably quite detrimental to some peoples sanity.
Since March 25th I am working from home at least till the end of october. And I work more during the 8-9 hrs. I would like to go back into the office, but so far my company wants to play it save. Understandable. I get payed the same, have the same work to do, so the only change is working from home.

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« Reply #95 on: September 25, 2020, 09:14:00 AM »
I changed jobs in April, and have been doing 40 hours or more each week, working from home and occasionally on site. Which is a 200 mile commute.... Digs etc.

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Yeah, I'd advocate some volunteer work on occasion, maybe at the British Heart Foundation or similar.....

Whilst it's great to code and produce stuff, it's also good to get out and even just have a walk.  :D

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« Reply #96 on: September 25, 2020, 09:51:34 AM »
Of course, none of this would be happening (again) if people were using their heads.

I had to go in Iceland (the shop, not the country) for food the other day.  So many people not wearing face coverings.  And you can't tell me they're all exempt, not that I think anybody should be as they aren't that bad anyway.  None of them were being challenged by shop staff, and even if they were, all they'd likely get is a mouthful of abuse.

Bottom line - if you don't want to wear a face covering and/or have no respect for the health of others, stay at home.  Boris Johnson should make it law that anyone not wearing a face covering gets fucking chinned.  >:(
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« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2020, 10:58:54 AM »
Of course, none of this would be happening (again) if people were using their heads.

I had to go in Iceland (the shop, not the country) for food the other day.  So many people not wearing face coverings.  And you can't tell me they're all exempt, not that I think anybody should be as they aren't that bad anyway.  None of them were being challenged by shop staff, and even if they were, all they'd likely get is a mouthful of abuse.

Bottom line - if you don't want to wear a face covering and/or have no respect for the health of others, stay at home.  Boris Johnson should make it law that anyone not wearing a face covering gets fucking chinned.  >:(

Totally agree, its not much of a chore to stick one on. Too many people not giving a fuck! Only seen a few instances of no masks here in Glasgow but I'm right next to the Uni which is worrying.   :(

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« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2020, 05:54:09 PM »
here in sidmouth(south uk) there are a lot of people not wearing face coverings. I work in a coffee shop/restaurant and as of yesterday we have started telling people to leave if they wont do track and trace or wear a face covering

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« Reply #99 on: September 25, 2020, 05:56:37 PM »
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Ditto. Do not blame shop workers for not challenging f*** that don't wear masks, inconsiderate knobs are the lowest of the low.

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« Reply #100 on: September 25, 2020, 08:20:04 PM »
Whilst it's great to code and produce stuff, it's also good to get out and even just have a walk.  :D

Totally agree. I live on Harrow on the hill, which is about the only reasonably nice part of the whole borough now, so going for a walk around the famous school and some of the fields/back roads is almost compulsory for me at least twice a week at lunch times.

Jealous of Gindalf living in Sidmouth, though. When I was a kid, and growing up in a single parent family, we had state subsided holidays to give mum a rest. Me and my sisters used to get shunted up to Devon for two weeks for a few years in the late 70's. I loved places like Sidmouth, Paignton and Teignmouth as all the kids were carted to the seaside every day. No flipping consoles keeping us in front of the telly back then. We had amusement arcades and bumper cars on the pier. Awesome days.


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« Reply #101 on: September 25, 2020, 10:44:41 PM »
@Xerra Yes its lovely here but its been so busy what with people not being able to go abroad easily for holidays and probably trying to make the most of their free time before another lockdown its been so busy that its actually hard to walk down the street(and nobody wearing masks) so unless its for work I just don't go out until after dark but hopefully with the colder weather will come a little peace and quiet

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« Reply #102 on: September 26, 2020, 04:40:39 AM »
Here in Singapore when you're out of your home its compulsory to wear a face covering (usually a mask) at all times, except when actually eating and drinking in a restaurant, or maybe exercising. Same for public transport, no mask then you don't get on, simple. Track and trace works flawlessly... you'll get notified, tested and quarantined if you were in an area where an infected person has been. You cant go in anywhere without having to 'check in and out'. It takes just a few seconds along with temperature screening.

The government here are employing people who are not working due to the virus (Bar and club staff, airline staff plus others) as 'social distancing ambassadors'. They move around the country reminding people to wear a mask and help disperse crowds. They are well respected for the job they're doing. They also have the power to dish out fines if you refuse to wear a mask or are a jerk to others about it. They are nice people and aren't power hungry and would prefer to just remind you to put on your mask.

The government here also give out FREE washable masks on a regular basis so there's no excuse not to wear one.

We are now down to very low numbers of daily infection, zero in the community for 5 days now, average of 0.5 a day for the week before (in the quarantined areas there's less than 20 a day and that figure is dropping too), but the government are under no illusion that they/we have beaten back the virus and that it all go very wrong without a moments notice.

I feel very safe here and have no worries at all about the virus here. However I am very worried about my friends and family there in the UK. The government there and not the only one... just look at the state of USA) are showing that they really dont know how to, or give a fuck, about it's peoples well being in true times of need, help and direction.
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« Reply #103 on: September 26, 2020, 07:43:43 AM »
@col thats all very well and good until people from outside your country start bringing it back in again.
all the countries need to be following strict measures like this so we can all beat the virus together rather than just keep passing it around like a hot potato

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« Reply #104 on: September 26, 2020, 12:23:40 PM »
Totally agree.

It's the same within the countries too. Everyone should pull together and do the same thing to help protect each other. In the more so called 'free' countries you have the 'human rights' brigade and the 'you hurt my feelings' brigade spouting tons of bullshit in order to satisfy their need for attention, which for some unqauntifiable reason, great swaths of people would sooner believe and follow them compared with going with common sense. It only takes 1 person to not wear a mask for the effort become ineffective. Scaling it up and I agree that it takes just 1 country have infections and the whole globe is at risk.

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People aren't allowed in here unless you have a damn good reason to come in, and it's to the authorities here to decide if that reason is good enough. 14 day quarantine without any physical contact with anyone is what you can look forward to if you are allowed in. You're not treated like a criminal though, quite the opposite. You'll get a free hotel to stay in, free food, phone calls to make sure that your health is ok, if you need any supplies etc. It gets left outside of your room door.

You also have to have a very good reason to go out of the country too and then come back. Going for vacation is definitely not one of them, and your travel has to be permitted before you go. Fines await you, paying for own hotel and expenses, covid tests and a possible redaction of your visa, if you ignore them. They mean business too. Plenty of places have closed and people kicked out for taking liberties.

Like most other countries, the government locked down and dished out billions for businesses to stay afloat. They also say 'if you can work from home then you must do so'. The companies that were trying that crap of trying to force employees back to office got huge fines and action taken.

If only other countries governments did something remotely similar and stopped the 'piss takers' then the world might be further along in trying to get out this rotten situation.
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