CoronaVirus

[degac]

what if i tell you that i already know 2 potential treatments (for this virus or others microbes in the plasma) without harmful side effects, one is rather high tech, was used in some hospitals at a time, but then was mysteriously forgotten... the other is low tech, is "open source", and is surpisingly not well known... i personally use it from time to time (electro therapy)...

Well, I tell you that you/other should prove these 2 'potential' treatments, it's the scientific approach.
When in Italy someone told there were some farms that could be useful on Covid19, they started immediately 'fast-test' (skipping the normal approach): so there's always an 'open mind' approach in critical situation.
But for example the Japanese medicine was a fault: it doesnt' even exist on the market, the side effects were so high that the company retired it from the market.
But even this way was explored.

You still can believe in anything or be skeptic, like me on your approach.
I'm not a medic or scientist so I can't give solutions.

Moreover, treatments on the effects of Covid-19 and treatments on the Covid-19 are two different things.

There's - literally - an entire world searching for a vaccine, none of the scientists that have some systems already working in lab want to start immediate application on humans, they need to test it for months.

there's plenty of theories and fake news around, false hopes and easy business.

I know only one thing: after more than 3 weeks - finally - the number of 'free' place in Intensive Care Unit is increased. This means that the 'lock down' (be at home, spatial distant and so on) solution is the only one working at the moment.
This get time to search a vaccine solution for everyone.

[RemiD]

I tell you that you/other should prove these 2 'potential' treatments, it's the scientific approach

i understand the necessity and usefulness of the scientific method, however nowadays others requirements / constraints have been added to consider an experiment and its results valid or not, and it does not follow anymore the good sense and aim of the scientific method, imo.

You still can believe in anything or be skeptic, like me on your approach.

i consider myself skeptic but open minded and curious, the best attitude in the world

I'm not a medic or scientist so I can't give solutions.

then you don't understand the scientifc method... degrees and titles are irrevelant to determine what is most likely true or false, efficient or inefficient...

there's plenty of theories and fake news around, false hopes and easy business.

and of course only one solution is true and efficient : a medicine or a vaccine made (sold) by the pharmaceutical industry.
you must feel scared and disempowered if you believe that...
(but i agree that there are many scammers who will take advantage of such crisis)

a vaccine solution for everyone

no thanks

[Matty]

Semi Related news - from an email I sent to some friends and family....

Good Afternoon folks,

I attached a graph below and did some research after viewing it.

On one of my game portals they show per country, over time, the dollar value associated with advertising on a 'cost per thousand views' basis (CPM).

I wouldn't have normally seen these figures had I not been putting my game online on an ad sponsored model.

But there is something you can see quite clearly - and the media reports it too.

The cost per thousand views has dropped - you can see the ponit of inflection on the curve - at the 15th of March 2020.

It basically linearly decreases from the 15th of March until the 1st of April and then remains flat.

What does this mean?

It means that the companies would normally spend on advertising are doing less of it.  With less advertising being thrown about, the amount of money being thrown at internet advertising has dropped.

Therefore it is cheaper to advertise at the moment.

But in another sense - these businesses have stopped advertising because a) there are less businesses in good health and b) they do not have the money to spend on advertising.

So...this is a key point that shows pretty much exactly where and when the economy changed.

You can see right on about the 15th of March - the worldwide advertising budgets were slashed and continued to drop. Until they've plateaued from April 1st onwards.

They have not risen yet.

In one sense it means the economies of the world are suffering.

In another - it is a perfect time for some with money to take advantage of the cheaper advertising costs.

[Matty]

And interestingly...someone bought up all the internet advertising in Germany on a single day in April...see attached....and the Asian countries advertising all fell to zero.

[Matty]

Actually - every single country on this chart has its advertising cost go haywire after the first of April.

Something not quite right about this company's data source.

[Derron]

That advertising in Germany ... I oddly had a google advertisment coming through that day - other ads are normally blocked on the google hit pages. The ad appeared on all hits I had the day (and maybe even later?). First I thought it is some malware thing.
The ad was about animal shelters and covid 19.

Had to add a manual filter to get rid of it.

bye
Ron

[Henri]

When in doubt, ask Trevor :-)

-Henri

[Matty]

Here is a page from a joke book I bought in March 2017. Attached.

[Matty]

A 1980s coronavirus equivalent scare campaign. ..more deaths than ww2 eh?

[Matty]

We have stage 4 restrictions.

There is one group who can ignore travel and distancing restrictions:Intimate partners.

Solution:declare yourself bisexual and polyamorous and you can visit anyone, anywhere in any size group.

[3DzForMe]

In the U of K, gets on my nerves (albeit slightly) Bo Jo, for the sake of frickkin poly ticks, doesn't folly niccky sturgeon excellent lead on face masks.... And eludes to the fact England.... May follow suit. Ffs.

[Qube]

I think they will do a u-turn on face masks once the data is clear they make catching Covid-19 an even higher risk. Reason being that most are wearing “face coverings” that are not graded to stop the breathing in of the virus and instead when you are out and about & come into contact with it, it builds up and passes through the face covering so you end up continually breathing it in. Same for those infected, it builds up in their face covering and they become a walking super spreader.

Wait for the big spike coming soon to a town near you and a speedy reverse on face coverings that are not graded to stop the virus passing through

[Steve Elliott]

You should wear masks with sufficient layers.  If they're the disposable kind wear them once then throw them away; if they're re-usable wear them then wash them before re-use.  Do not put your mask under your nose or chin or generally play with it.  Use hand gel before and after entering shops and wash your hands when you return home. 

[GfK]

The main aim of masks is not to stop you getting Covid-19 - it's to minimise the risk of you passing it on if you've got it and are asymptomatic.

But people aren't wearing them right.  I've seen people with their noses poking out, with it under their chin, hanging off one ear, pulling it down to speak... complete idiots.  It really isn't difficult, and no they aren't exactly comfortable, but if you don't want to wear one then stay the fuck at home!  Simples.

New cases in the UK have already started to rise, and I'd put money on us all being in full lockdown again before Christmas.  Probably all kick off again mid-September to early October.

[grindalf]

I work in a coffee shop and I wear my face mask for up to 9 hours at a time(not including my 20 minute break) they are not hard to wear, they do not make it hard to breath, but every single person that walks through the door has to pull their face mask down and try to lean around my plastic shields to tell me what they want.
I swear the stupidity of these people is going to get me sick