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Matty:
Hi folks,

Is this normal for a route to a website to take so many hops over international US destinations to get to a European host from Australia?


Tracing route to www.mattiesgames.com [185.176.40.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    65 ms     2 ms     1 ms  gigabitethernet9-27.win16.melbourne.telstra.net [REMOVED BY ME]
  2     2 ms     3 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether3-100.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [REMOVED BY ME]
  3    14 ms    14 ms    14 ms  bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [REMOVED BY ME]
  4    14 ms    14 ms    14 ms  bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [REMOVED BY ME]
  5    13 ms    14 ms    14 ms  bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com [REMOVED BY ME]
  6   161 ms   162 ms   161 ms  i-52.tlot-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.137.101]
  7   156 ms   155 ms   155 ms  i-0-0-0-5.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.210]
  8   156 ms   155 ms   155 ms  be4637.ccr41.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.133]
  9   156 ms   156 ms   155 ms  be3359.ccr42.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.69]
 10   166 ms   166 ms   166 ms  be2932.ccr32.phx01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.45.161]
 11   175 ms   175 ms   174 ms  be2930.ccr21.elp01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.78]
 12   190 ms   190 ms   190 ms  be2927.ccr41.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.221]
 13   210 ms   210 ms     *     be2687.ccr41.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.69]
 14   317 ms   317 ms   317 ms  be2112.ccr41.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.7.157]
 15   316 ms   316 ms   316 ms  be2806.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.105]
 16   316 ms   316 ms   316 ms  be2915.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.61]
 17   316 ms   316 ms   316 ms  be2088.ccr21.ymq01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.17]
 18   316 ms   316 ms   317 ms  be3042.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.161]
 19   316 ms   316 ms   316 ms  be2182.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.77.245]
 20   322 ms   323 ms   322 ms  be2813.ccr41.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0.122]
 21   328 ms   328 ms   328 ms  be2959.ccr21.muc03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.36.54]
 22   334 ms   335 ms   334 ms  be2974.ccr51.vie01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.6]
 23   348 ms   348 ms   348 ms  be3420.ccr51.beg03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0.70]
 24   354 ms   354 ms   354 ms  be3421.ccr31.sof02.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0.93]
 25   348 ms   348 ms   348 ms  149.6.69.42
 26   347 ms   346 ms   347 ms  185.176.40.2
 27   344 ms   344 ms   344 ms  p15.runhosting.com [185.176.40.52]

Trace complete.

Derron:
It all depends on the peering.

For A to reach B they need to have a peering with all the "connectors" (backbones to the internet). So if the shortest path between A to B goes over C, some longer paths will route over D and another one over E. It takes: the fastest path available. And availability is defined by whether they are peering with C, D and/or E. In this case they (your provider - or its "parent") might not peer with "C" and therefor need to take route D or E with which they peer.


You can try out
http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass
if it helps.

And the list there (of their routers) ... there is "amsterdam", "frankfurt", "munich", "vienna", "sofia" ... and now look at the router domain names (muc03.atlas.cogentco.com - for munich). They traverse you through their own network until they reach an "external" provider to which they have to peer (which costs money or exchanged traffic).


bye
Ron

Matty:
Thanks Derron, that is a bit clearer.

Rick Nasher:
You are all over the internet. ;)

Matty:

--- Quote ---You are all over the internet. ;)

--- End quote ---

It would not surprise me if there was some strange thing in my life that meant I was known outside the people I directly interact with day to day.....would not surprise me at all...crazy I know...

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