Why so many steps - tracert?

[Matty]

Hi folks,

Is this normal for a route to a website to take so many hops over international US destinations to get to a European host from Australia?


Tracing route to www.mattiesgames.com [185.176.40.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    65 ms     2 ms     1 ms  gigabitethernet9-27.win16.melbourne.telstra.net [REMOVED BY ME]
  2     2 ms     3 ms     1 ms  bundle-ether3-100.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [REMOVED BY ME]
  3    14 ms    14 ms    14 ms  bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [REMOVED BY ME]
  4    14 ms    14 ms    14 ms  bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [REMOVED BY ME]
  5    13 ms    14 ms    14 ms  bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com [REMOVED BY ME]
  6   161 ms   162 ms   161 ms  i-52.tlot-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.137.101]
  7   156 ms   155 ms   155 ms  i-0-0-0-5.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.210]
  8   156 ms   155 ms   155 ms  be4637.ccr41.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.133]
  9   156 ms   156 ms   155 ms  be3359.ccr42.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.69]
10   166 ms   166 ms   166 ms  be2932.ccr32.phx01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.45.161]
11   175 ms   175 ms   174 ms  be2930.ccr21.elp01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.78]
12   190 ms   190 ms   190 ms  be2927.ccr41.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.221]
13   210 ms   210 ms     *     be2687.ccr41.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.69]
14   317 ms   317 ms   317 ms  be2112.ccr41.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.7.157]
15   316 ms   316 ms   316 ms  be2806.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.105]
16   316 ms   316 ms   316 ms  be2915.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.61]
17   316 ms   316 ms   316 ms  be2088.ccr21.ymq01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.17]
18   316 ms   316 ms   317 ms  be3042.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.161]
19   316 ms   316 ms   316 ms  be2182.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.77.245]
20   322 ms   323 ms   322 ms  be2813.ccr41.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0.122]
21   328 ms   328 ms   328 ms  be2959.ccr21.muc03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.36.54]
22   334 ms   335 ms   334 ms  be2974.ccr51.vie01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.6]
23   348 ms   348 ms   348 ms  be3420.ccr51.beg03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0.70]
24   354 ms   354 ms   354 ms  be3421.ccr31.sof02.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0.93]
25   348 ms   348 ms   348 ms  149.6.69.42
26   347 ms   346 ms   347 ms  185.176.40.2
27   344 ms   344 ms   344 ms  p15.runhosting.com [185.176.40.52]

Trace complete.

[Derron]

It all depends on the peering.

For A to reach B they need to have a peering with all the "connectors" (backbones to the internet). So if the shortest path between A to B goes over C, some longer paths will route over D and another one over E. It takes: the fastest path available. And availability is defined by whether they are peering with C, D and/or E. In this case they (your provider - or its "parent") might not peer with "C" and therefor need to take route D or E with which they peer.


You can try out
http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass
if it helps.

And the list there (of their routers) ... there is "amsterdam", "frankfurt", "munich", "vienna", "sofia" ... and now look at the router domain names (muc03.atlas.cogentco.com - for munich). They traverse you through their own network until they reach an "external" provider to which they have to peer (which costs money or exchanged traffic).


bye
Ron

[Matty]

Thanks Derron, that is a bit clearer.

[Rick Nasher]

You are all over the internet.

[Matty]

You are all over the internet.

It would not surprise me if there was some strange thing in my life that meant I was known outside the people I directly interact with day to day.....would not surprise me at all...crazy I know...

[Rick Nasher]

Well, that might be not be the case at all.
I've heard people say things they couldn't know on many occasions. Weird.

Even had my gf thinking I spoke to people about private stuff only her and me knew, and vice versa. But for both of us wasn't so. You almost would think colleagues bugged or hacked phones or so, but wasn't possible in some cases.
Telling you: weird stuff is going on, messing with our heads sometimes. Just don't fall in the trap of focusing too much on it.