AGK vs Monkey?!

Started by bmcalex, September 03, 2017, 16:41:41

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MikeHart

Now thst Marks Patreon support has dropped big time, i would not be surprised if his motivation drops also.

Steve Elliott

That's what happens if you bite the hand that feeds you!

I'm sorry, Mark is a talented guy, but he took us for fools, in the end.
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Naughty Alien

QuoteNow thst Marks Patreon support has dropped big time, i would not be surprised if his motivation drops also.

..why is that happened ?? I mean, I thought that, patreon support came exclusively from Monkey+whatever supporters only ?? Not BMaxers and generally, BB based folks ? Or??

ThickO

400 a month, that's just sad. I could literally dig ditches part time for more than that.
3D makes my head hurt...

Yue

Something tells me this is going to be a dead project.

Pingus

A question for you AGK experts, is it possible to call a compiled code (made in C++ or whatever) from the interpreted Tier1 code ?

Qube

Quote from: Pingus on September 05, 2017, 02:03:39
A question for you AGK experts, is it possible to call a compiled code (made in C++ or whatever) from the interpreted Tier1 code ?
AGK supports plugin's if that is any help to you? - https://www.appgamekit.com/documentation/guides/14_plugins.htm
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MikeHart

It was impixi who had pledged at least 500 usd. The last time i checked it was over 1100 so he lost around 700 all of a sudden.

sphinx

I feel sad for Mark, he is a talented guy but sucks at marketing.
Even worse (my point of view) he did not treat his loyal users as he had to.

He had a treasure and he was trying to find the key, now he lost the treasure too!!
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MikeHart

Quote from: Xaron on September 05, 2017, 07:17:58
Apparently he knew this would come: http://monkeycoder.co.nz/forums/topic/patreon-below-500/

Maybe. But the comment about now the need to try to find other fundings reminds me soooo much about a language developer who was milking his loyal followers in every possible way.  ;D

Also when I read that he was able to rent office space, I am convinced that he has the income that was needed to do it anyway.

RonTek

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I'm curious as to why the 3D module download link is nowhere publicly visible and available..

http://monkeycoder.co.nz/module-manager/

Maybe there's a need to do a detailed comparison between AGK vs Monkey2. I see there's already PBR on MX2 as mentioned on the site update somewhere before. I also wonder how it would fare against AGK on emscripten and android builds, 2D and 3D. Does AGK use emscripten or custom js like MonkeyX with HTML5 build?


Also, the topic title needs to be updated (AGK vs Monkey2)??

MikeHart

Quote from: RonTek on September 05, 2017, 09:25:05
I'm curious as to why the 3D module download link is nowhere publicly visible and available..

http://monkeycoder.co.nz/module-manager/

Maybe there's a need to do a detailed comparison between AGK vs Monkey2. I see there's already PBR on MX2 as mentioned on the site update somewhere before. I also wonder how it would fare against AGK on emscripten and android builds, 2D and 3D. Does AGK use emscripten or custom js like MonkeyX with HTML5 build?


Also, the topic title needs to be updated (AGK vs Monkey2)??

That module page contained a much bigger list in the past. But at some point M.S. threw a lot of 3rd party modules out and it contains now only modules of his best buddies.

To my knowledge, mojo2 is now shipping with M2. I did a simple speed comparison with M2 and AGK, a spinning cube. I got only 20-30 FPS on my system with M2 and about 200 with AGK in Tier 1.

Xaron did a test recently where he wrote to an image. CX took 10 ms, M2 20 ms, AGK Tier 1 about 200 ms and AGK Tier 2 took 10 ms.

There is no PBR in AGK and I doubt it will come. They are not targeting high end systems. I think for M2 you need better performing machines.

And regarding HTML and AGK speed: I think CX wins here over AGK.

Pingus


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AGK supports plugin's if that is any help to you? - https://www.appgamekit.com/documentation/guides/14_plugins.htm
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Yep thanks :) !

Qube

QuoteAnd regarding HTML and AGK speed: I think CX wins here over AGK.
I dunno, this runs pretty OK on my system considering it's not optimised in any shape or form http://www.syntaxbomb.com/CometKiller
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Until the next time.