..M$ has lost its marbles for sure..

Started by Naughty Alien, May 28, 2024, 15:47:20

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Steve Elliott

For people thinking of switching from Windows, there's always MacOS. At least there's big name software available like Photoshop.  :D
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dawlane

Quote from: Steve Elliott on June 08, 2024, 11:09:39For people thinking of switching from Windows, there's always MacOS. At least there's big name software available like Photoshop.  :D
ROFL :))

Steve Elliott

A bit tongue in cheek perhaps. But some parts of setting up a Linux system reminds me of the 70's! I didn't get a home computer until the 80's. Plus you have a whole lot of gatekeeping by people who understand Linux and don't want to share their knowledge. Kinda go back to Windows if you don't understand attitude does Linux no favours. I do have a machine with Linux installed by the way.
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dawlane

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Quote from: Steve Elliott on June 08, 2024, 15:25:40Plus you have a whole lot of gatekeeping by people who understand Linux and don't want to share their knowledge
You generally find them over at the Arch Linux forum. I get the impression that they have some sort of superiority complex. The most common answer to newbies from what I can gather, is to read the documentation, which may as well be written in another language to some that's never used a Linux desktop OS in their life.

I tend to draw the line when I see posts of users claiming to have used Linux for a number of years and then post asking a question on how to do something of what would be the most simplest thing to do.

Though when it comes to Apple, they've got M$ beat hands down. I bet M$ would love to have the kind of control that Apple has over hardware and software. MacOS is it's self based off a UNIX OS, just like Linux. The reason Apple's version of UNIX works well, is down to the fact that it's tailored to only the hardware that they sell.

Steve Elliott

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Quote"Plus you have a whole lot of gatekeeping by people who understand Linux and don't want to share their knowledge"

You generally find them over at the Arch Linux forum. I get the impression that they have some sort of superiority complex. The most common answer to newbies from what I can gather, is to read the documentation, which may as well be written in another language to some that's never used a Linux desktop OS in their life.

Then that's a big problem for the 'ideal OS'.

QuoteThough when it comes to Apple, they've got M$ beat hands down. I bet M$ would love to have the kind of control that Apple has over hardware and software. MacOS is it's self based off a UNIX OS, just like Linux. The reason Apple's version of UNIX works well, is down to the fact that it's tailored to only the hardware that they sell.

Definitely, it's much easier when you control all of the system. Microsoft has to deal with many many configurations of PC, Apple doesn't. So Apple can fine tune it's OS to the hardware it also produces - and it's Unix/Linux based...It seems like the perfect choice...But then you have to deal with Apple, who like Microsoft tend to f*ck it up for users!  Changing things after every OS update. Removing features, adding features people didn't want, forcing users to upgrade their hardware, overpricing their computers, that sort of thing...It was better in some ways when the OS was locked down and things just worked to that standard! But that was sadly a long time ago.
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Linux Mint 8Gb Celeron Intel UHD Graphics600
macOS Sequoia 64Gb M4 Max
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dawlane

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Quote from: Steve Elliott on June 09, 2024, 15:35:59
Quote"Plus you have a whole lot of gatekeeping by people who understand Linux and don't want to share their knowledge"

You generally find them over at the Arch Linux forum. I get the impression that they have some sort of superiority complex. The most common answer to newbies from what I can gather, is to read the documentation, which may as well be written in another language to some that's never used a Linux desktop OS in their life.

Then that's a big problem for the 'ideal OS'.

Arch Linux OS: The Linux operating system so ideal, an update can literally break an entire system.

The current trending derivative of Arch Linux, is EndeavourOS. Even though it's easier to deal with, still requires you to have some knowledge.
   
When it comes to Linux. It works best when the hardware components are common off the shelf items, and have been around for a few years.

Currently the three top trending Linux distributions on distrowatch are: MX LINUX (Debian Stable), Linux Mint (based off Ubuntu LTS, and has only once dropped to the number 4 ranking in 14 years), and EndeavourOS (Arch Linux).

My only real gripe with Linux Mint, is that there is no KDE edition.

dawlane

Sounds like M$ are having to do a rethink.

Kronos

it used to be that Windows (and maybe operating systems in general) was a tool that you used and had control off now they totally controls you, your data and your computer. Wish there were more alternative OS's out there. I did a proof of concept install of Linux Mint the other day it was ok if a little slow. I was impressed with the game support through steam.