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Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« on: June 08, 2021, 13:20:00 »
I dont know what happend, but today I have no "Modify"-button next to my posts any more. If I look at third party threads, where I also posted something, I see the "Modify"-button next to my post and I'm able to edit it there.

But where I am the owner of the thread... I only see the "Quote"-button.

What do I do wrong? I already logged out and re-entered. but without success.

Can somebody hel me?

EDIT
In this moment I was also able to modify this post. It looks like this behavoir appears only in threads that are some days old.

« Last Edit: June 08, 2021, 13:22:34 by Midimaster »
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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2021, 13:44:19 »
This was added some days ago by Qube (with me just mentioning the idea almost simultaneously). It happened after the user GfK edited all his posts leaving a ".". He left/banned/dunno because of some stupid stuff they wrote in the "shoutbox" and he mentioned he was "upset" (my words ... think he used more harsh ones) by the behaviour of some of us here (at least in his opinion).

So to avoid such "dumb ass reaction" (in the sense of a quickly done thing instead of thinking about something for some minutes) editing of old posts is now not possible. Deletion would require moderators (qube) approval.


What I see as a problem here now is - that you cannot update your "first post" (eg containing most current download link to your modules) anymore.
Hmm one could add a "recaptcha" for these old post-edits :p ... That way a "mass removal" is at least... annoying :)


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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2021, 14:20:39 »
I think this new approach is no good idea. A lot of people use the first post of a thread to add updated informations. This is especially important in categories like "Worklog" or "Tutorial".

To forbid these editing for all users because only one user misused it is not reasonable. Qube should again re-think what the new behavior means for future acuatalisations of the topics. I think he will need an algoritm for detecting this "indirect deleting of content".

In my case not only the first posts of my threads are closed, but all my post in all my own thread.

p.s.
What is the "shoutbox"? I hadn't noticed anything about the incident. But offending users in the forum cannot be accepted. Also I already received a comment which was unobjective. But my reaction is always to not react on this, especially when the "author" never posts code or explanations but always harsh critics.








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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2021, 20:55:32 »
GfK decided to leave these forums by his own accord. Before doing so he childishly and selfishly replace all his posts with a single dot.

Due to that action I changed the policy to allow members to only edit their own posts after X amount of time. I will be changing this further to allow those who NEED to edit older posts to update them, for example Midimaster's need as brought up in this thread.

Onto more serious stuff :

Having reviewed the shout box I do not see any racism. Here is the conversation.

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Steve Elliott: lol I just saw a couple of idiots driving about with a big carpet pointing out the passenger side window like a Jousting Lance!  Get a bit too near the pavement and they'd take out the pedestrians!

Amon.: Prolly a Gypo. Is that word allowed? lol :)

Amon.: With no insurance,licence, or M.O.T. lol

Steve Elliott: *sigh* No it was just somebody that didn't have access to a van and instead had just a small car.  They should have paid for delivery.

Steve Elliott: So you've turned a light hearted funny moment into your prejudiced view.  And they weren't niggers either - was that your next comment??!  ffs this Shoutbox really brings out people's true feelings and it isn't pretty.  Maybe stick to coding matters.

Amon.: What? Talk about overreacting. You just want to start an argument. Go ahead though. Enjoy yourself.

Steve Elliott: No, just have a word with yourself. Yes you can't say these things, it's called bigotry.

Amon.: Ok, I see how it could have caused offence. My apologies. I guess sometimes we all say the wrong thing. I didn't know though that the word Gypo was considered racist. It is in reference to gypsies which is the word I should have used.

Ok, my bad. Won't happen again. And thanks for the heads up. There's so much you can't say anymore that it's unreal.

Steve Elliott: It was just a couple in a small car not designed for transporting a huge carpet, so it was sticking 4 foot outside the passenger side window lol, it made me laugh.  That's all.  No need to jump to (false) accusations.  Chill.

Amon.: No, I shant chill. I will chill when my game is done. So, expect that around 2032.


Finally grow up and get a grip on yourselves. I'm sure most of us on here are not children anymore. If you want to accuse or insult one another then take it off-site and not fuck about on here.

This forum is for fun for us old coders and techie enthusiast. I'm getting fed up with the bitchiness that's been creeping in slowly and so it stops now. If you can't be nice to each other then leave now as future shit like this will result in all involved being banned. If this means losing many members then so be it.

In a nutshell have fun or fuck off, it's your choice.
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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2021, 00:29:08 »
@Midimaster - You should now be able to edit your own posts no matter how old. Please check and let me know :)

All other members : The ability to edit your own posts older than 1 day will only be allowed by request and if there is a genuine reason to do so.
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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2021, 00:49:42 »
Can I have access to the first post by me in this thread ? : https://www.syntaxbomb.com/index.php/topic,6342.0.html

I'm no pro game music composer and barely get any plays, but putting new remixes in the post was a routine for me. There's 60 remixes left until I fill up the space on soundcloud and complete the list.

edit: would it be a idea to allow each user to edit 1 older post a day? So you can edit anything but not mass edit in a short time?
« Last Edit: June 09, 2021, 01:13:33 by Pakz »

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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2021, 02:51:25 »
Can I have access to the first post by me in this thread ? : https://www.syntaxbomb.com/index.php/topic,6342.0.html
Done :)

edit: would it be a idea to allow each user to edit 1 older post a day? So you can edit anything but not mass edit in a short time?
By default the forum settings only allow all users to edit their posts either forever or by X amount of time. I've installed a mod where I can override this for individuals but it means that user can edit any of their posts no matter how old. I can't state on a post by post basis.

Allowing members to edit older posts will only be enabled for those that have a genuine reason to do so and I'll have to trust they don't go mad and change all their posts :o
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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2021, 08:21:00 »
Thank you for re-allow the access to my old posts. I can report it works. I can see the "Modify"-button in all posts.

I can assure you that I will never do mad things with it. I really appreciate the work done by GfK, but this deletion was really a very immature action. And it was an inadequate response to the attack he felt himself exposed to.

On the other side, we have to care about, that abuse words and sarkasm become not part of an answer. They are not factual and purposeful.

I spoke about a (single) inadequate answer I got. Of course it came from Steve Elliot. And here he left in my opinion the purely factual level unnecessarily:
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..So you don't want lots of new BASIC Languages, but want everybody to get around a language you don't understand?  That's madness. Instead, get around a language that is designed for games.  I'm not going near sound just yet, but I can see your advice will be invaluable!
I can take it, because I'm a big boy, but there are certainly others who are hurt by something like this. This sould not become the communication style of a board.

Would it be helpful to educate people with time penaltys? one day for the first inappropriate answer, two days forr the next, 3 days for the third and so on....

Perhaps this is to much work for the admins, but everybody would read his answer twice before sending it.

Normaly it is not my thing to write content, which is not related to code. So this will stay my only statement related to the board etiquette.




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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2021, 08:38:21 »
Oh please!! You're suggesting people move to a language you don't understand and tell people like myself to not waste my time producing another language, of course I'm going to react!  Good luck trying to write a game in a text based C Language - you need to bolt-on a game engine to a general purpose language. Once again some here think they can voice their opinions - but others are not allowed too!  Like they should only write your C code for you or it's an 'inadequate answer'?  Really?

Midimaster you attacked people for using versions of BASIC, so no you don't just talk in code with no opinions (they'll be more versions of BASIC than users you said so basically  saying don't go there).  Do as I say, other opinions don't matter seems to be your mantra - and give me the code!  And coming from somebody who has been here 5 minutes to suggest people need to be banned adds to your arrogance, Master.  Educate yourself, all people have opinions and are free to voice them here, like you have.
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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2021, 09:20:49 »
Qube, I'm a registered user on several forum boards and all of them allow users to edit their posts forever. It's the most common. When I registered here it was the norm so if you want to change that it's like changing conditions in a contract. First you have to warn users that a "policy" change is coming and give them some time to adjust. And also maybe see if they like it? I think you should give the right back to the users on these forums to change/delete messages and then announce that you will make changes.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2021, 18:15:11 by Kris »

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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2021, 10:47:46 »
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And it was an inadequate response to the attack he felt himself exposed to.
unfortunately I have to comment here as I was the other 'Sh*tC8nt' < his words not mine, that he alluded to.
As far as I could see there was never any attack on Gfk. He posted some crap jokes in the shoutbox - had some sort of fit - never explained what he was going on about and then went on a mass delete.

Now I'm not sure how who or what got him so riled - but at least give an option to respond. Personally with comments and language he used - good riddance...!

In regard to the changes - yep it might com across as a bit 'strong' but at least until other concepts are looked at it will prevent someone else from going nuts and derailing things.

As to other forums. it is common to see this behaviour when someone goes on a rampage and deletes everything. If you can't stand by what you say then better not say it at all.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2021, 10:50:17 by iWasAdam »

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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2021, 11:30:04 »
Sometimes even the smallest of misunderstandings can explode into nuclear meltdown. On the subject of GfK I have known him on the forums for about 18 years now, I know he can be a bit sarcastic at times but he can be very helpful at times too. He's not bad guy, just a bit misunderstood that's all.

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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2021, 12:16:35 »
yep It's a name I know. but for the life of me I can't figure out what heppened  :o

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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2021, 14:24:00 »
Qube, I'm a registered user on several forum boards and all of them allows users to edit their posts forever. It's the most common. When I registered here it was the norm so if you want to change that it's like changing conditions in a contract. First you have to warn users that a "policy" change is coming and give them some time to adjust. And also maybe see if they like it? I think you should give the right back to the users on these forums to change/delete messages and then announce that you will make changes.

Sorry, but you're wrong here. Qube doesn't have to do a damn thing if he wants to change how "his" forums are used and managed going forward. The clue is that they are his forums. He doesn't charge you for using them and doesn't need to be answerable to you or anyone else. The fact that he's being diplomatic and offering options is just a courtesy.

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Re: Cannot edit my own post in my own threads
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2021, 15:41:28 »
That's right, Qube gives us this site for free so we should go by his ways if we are to live in his place.

 

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