SyntaxBomb - Indie Coders

Hi! Maybe someone can help me clarify a few things about AppGameKit Studio?

• Anyone can go to https://github.com/TheGameCreators/AGKRepo, and compile a version of AGK Studio and use it for free?
• The repo is getting new updates (https://github.com/TheGameCreators/AGKRepo/commits/main/), will these be available at the paid version on steam (https://store.steampowered.com/app/1024640/AppGameKit_Studio/)?
• AGK Studio is pretty cheap now, is it still a good option to recommend to someone who wants to start creating games without too much hassle?

Thanks for your attention.

Officially the source is for people who has a license already and want to have access to the source to create their "own version" of AGK by adding new features they need etc. maybe share the created new features with other users by sending it to Lee Bamber who checks it and if find it useful will fork it into one of the following updates. What you cannot do is to create another similar product from AGK source like AGK by renaming and slightly modifying the source. In that sense it's not an open source project.

Yeah those updates go into the official release on steam.


Yeah I absolutely recommend AGK for development in it's current state. Still a great tool. I would definitely buy a license if I were you.

I would definitely still recommend AGK for games. 

Thank you for the answers!

Yeah me too best language I've used to date and I have tried quite a few. 

@ricardo_sdl . AGK is easier than PureBasic and a good place to start. As you already know basic AGK should be achievable pretty quickly. TGC are still providing essential updates for AGK S although it is in feature freeze as it is a finished product. For .dlls and languages operating systems and things of this nature then PureBasic will be needed. I am never going to make an operating system or language but like to think it is possible.

I would recommend it for quite a few tasks besides games if it is possible and the end result is good it doesn't matter how you did it all that matters is it does the job. I believe you can make a spreadsheet in AGK along with the other spreadsheet offerings from countless other coders. I'm gonna miss the spreadsheet out.

I think it will be good for years to come especially if it works well with the next operating system which it should. 

If it works on Windows 11, I'm positive it'll be fine on further versions, Win11 has been one giant beta of a pain in the arse in my own experience, to the point I just plain stopped developing in Windows 10 since the UI was shot inbetween the two for some time and the difference was notable... Even MS's own apps had issues, and if I'm honest, some probably still do but I have noticed they have been ironing these out as well.

For me, Win11 is now the starting point for anyone to support, forget Win10, it's just about gone, it's a shame, because I quite liked Win10, Win11 has grown on me, but it took some doing because like I said, it used to piss me off how I was finding it broke things in regards to API's and libraries that I use.

If I had one wish, I just wish it wasnt as bland, it would be great if MS brought back the fun and bright and cheerfulness of XP, but that will never happen soon.

Anyway, like I said, if it works well on Win11 without hiccups, there simply is no fear.

Dabz

Nice Dabz it's good to hear of some positive words for AGK S. They could still  be selling AGK S in five years or perhaps not.
I don't really care too much as long as it helps me get the job done. This is the only language I have been fluent in, I'm not saying I know it all by a long way but I can do some cool stuff with it and it has grown on me. It seems these days that I can only use one language at a time or I make mistakes and I find it confusing. So I'm gonna carry on with AGK S for the time being.

The price for AGK S goes up and down very often. I think if it were for me I would wait until it was about £30 or less.
Or get a key from G2A.
   

AGK Studio is still absolutely worth the full price. It is unfortunate that they went with the one time payment business model instead of the "pay some upgrade price for newer versions with new features" but because they were generous and you don't have to "rent" the software plus you also have access to the source code of AGK Studio is a no brainer at any price between the lowest sale and it's regular price. The official resale platform of TGC is STEAM so I would suggest against G2A or similar who are selling keys.

AGK Studio is an excellent product. Sure it lacking on the 3D side and a bit picky on what it'll work with. The 2D side is solid and the language itself, whilst wordy, is easy enough to learn. It compiles to byte code and not native compiling but it's still no slouch and easily fast enough for most scenarios.

The problem with AGK Studio and its demise was all down to terrible business practices. A language only can keep developing if there is income for such a language. If they'd gone down a perpetual licensing route then they'd be getting money in constantly. If someone wanted to buy it and not get upgrades after a year then that's up to them, use version X forever but for most, they'd happily pay a yearly fee to keep up with the latest and greatest version.

I think the rights to AGK S should of been sold as an ongoing business to someone who could of maintained it. 
I have much faith in AppGameKit I guess some might think there is not much to AGK but it is a fair size and there's more 
commands than you can shake a stick at but easy to remember. The thing I like about AGK S is you do not need addons because it is all there. Code it.   

And I think AGK S can yield some very nice professional results. I'm not saying all my games are great because they are not but on my itch.io account there is everything I have done some not very good at all and some not too shabby. This computer has the intel iris Xe graphics which is a good improvement over the UHD graphics I had before and had it a couple of weeks now, very nice got it at quite a large discount but had to move fast. They had gone by the next day at that price.
I think they made a mistake but there we are I love the thing. Best bang for the buck I've had when buying a new computer. 10 cores against 2 on my last one. 

GoodBye