SyntaxBomb - Indie Coders

I asked AI what things I could make with AGK besides games and it said accounting, productivity,
and  a load more business stuff like spreadsheets. I think AGK beats PureBasic in most areas
but they are both basic with a 3D renderer as is Blitz3D. AGK Studio may be interpreted but it is quite fast and smooth. I think AGK could do with an SQL addon to put the icing on the cake.
I may try and make this with the help of AI as I really have not got the foggiest. 
 

This may not be the best solution for making business software for everybody but it certainly is for me and is very capable. when I compile my AGK games they work straight away 9 times out of 10.
when I compile PureBasic most of the time it does not work. Yeah I know it's to do with my programming mostly but there we are. AGK for me is much easier than PureBasic probably because I've used it more but if I had started with PB it may of been the other way around. I think the AGK language is much more robust than PB. I really wanted to be good at PB and did take a year out to learn it but I had too many problems and ended up back on AGK Studio. I do remember that when I first tried AGK it was Alien to me and hard to get my head around but now it is way better after a couple of years or so using it. The possibilities are endless and you can make pretty much anything with it games educational  business. 

I'd definitely not use AGK for business software. It's just not designed for that in any shape or form. PB is more capable than AGK if you wanted to do GUI based software. Then again you'd be much much better off with something like Visual Studio if writing anything approaching 'business software'.

Most business software is web-based these days (even if they wrap their ".exe" around it). There is of course still business software done the classic way - but I doubt _we_ are the ones doing that. Do it for browsers and it will run on desktop, mobile, ...
(clarify: at least their "clients" are offered as webbased too)

I mean ... to build a classic software for my daywork I needed to install node.js to run angular and all this stuff ... so I needed to enable "javascript/typescript" programming to get some tools doing their grunt work so that I can finally code in Visual Studio ... and once I did that I use some powershell scripts which call into node js doing things so my visual studio output gets properly packaged and deployed (don't ask ... this is a industry software done by some 3rd party -- with their front end serving websites but being "classic c#" written).
But despite that you will find a lot of electron programs (so "browser + webstuff") like VS Code, Teams (if not directly visiting the website) etc.
The more "access" webstuff gets, the more likely you will be running even your 3d modeller in a website (you know ... browsers becoming the new "OS" then).


What you might do the classic way is "tools". Doubt people want you to write their (non-sueable) accounting software.


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Ron

@Pfaber11 What kind of business software are we talking about? Business software/application can be a lots of things. What would be the functionality? What solution would it offer? 

The reason I say best for me is AGK is what I know best, PB and me I don't get I used it for a year and 
was doing ok with it but now it is proving hard to pick up again. I will persevere though. Hey Qube I see what you're saying but I do think it can do the job. I have done my own accounts for the inland revenue people in the past and for a small business depending what they need it can do it. I have got 
an IT qualification from years ago about 20. You know I really wish PB was as easy as AGK. I think the syntax with AGK is great and it does stick in my memory. when I'm using PB or at least trying to it is overwhelming  because of the size of it AGK is probably somewhat smaller but still has many commands. As far as the business vs game production thing I would think programing games is no different than making business,  educational ,when I say business I mean a small one like a window cleaning specialist (window cleaner) or brick layer or selling on ebay. (Not the post office) 

So what solution would your application offer to a small business that does window cleaning, brick layering, or selling on eBay? What would your software do?

if you want to do business stuff you will sooner or later have to work with databases, web sources, .... so ensure that your programming language / kit offers such things or is easy to extend (and you are capable of extending it)
Some for example some might want things like "create pdfs / json / ..." out of certain data ... including their logos (svg) and all this stuff.

So as @Coder Apprentice wrote...what do you think "others" will need - and can you offer it (do NOT do it vice versa -- so not "what can I offer, and this will be what others need")


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Ron

Probably the most used business software on any level.



-Henri

Yes Henri Excel and Word DB4 and power point are pretty much all that is needed for business. But maybe there will be firms who want custom software that does exactly what they want. You know out of all the different languages I've tried or looked at this is it for me AGK C/S is the best to take a game from start to finish. So in my world the best super BASIC of all time is hopefully gonna find it's wings and fly.

I believe in AGK S  and Vulkan.

I don't really know and I am probably not the man for the job PAYE and General accounts that sort of thing. You put all the info in at the end of the day and it does the rest accounts wages the lot.

..im not sure what is actual problem with PB, but i have deployed quite a lot of industrial applications, done in PB, various factory machines and processes control  as well as oil platforms (24 rigs, in total from 2019 to september last year)...PB is just fine..

Yes it is fine all the new examples are great and all I've tried look awesome. I seem to of got the 3d .dll files mixed up and everything has gone to crap.  

Yes I see what you're saying Alien I'm gonna clean my computer in a short while and see what is what. I had problems with mixing newer and older versions of PB and now it is profanity profanity and more profanity. 

Anyhow if AGK S is all I know right now then it is the best for me for everything. I may get back into PB  in the near future.